muslum march

there appears to be a lot of talk about islam4uk holding a muslem march thro Wooton Bassett. The town that comes to a standstill and honours our brave soldiers that have been killed while fighting in Iraq and Afganistan
If you remember back last year a group of muslems shouted abuse at the coffins of our brave soldiers..
this is a disgrace and these muslems come to our country and say to the British people they want to be British .

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Is this a demonstration of how they want to integrate into our society ?

I think not, . . and the local authority there should be ashamed if they allow the march to go ahead, . . they could ban the march on the grounds it will cause civil unrest like other councils have done in the past with rival factions from Northern Ireland during the troubles.

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They dont want to be British . They just want to convert this country to islam
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And plenty of Muslims disagreed with them and spoke out at the time.

Most of the Muslim peace marches and calls for moderation and tolerance get drowned out by the press which overwhelmingly right wing and, in the interest of sales, only too happy to stoke the flames of outrage.

Very occasionally, the odd peaceful message will get through...

Muslims drive off protestors

...but mostly coverage of those peace marches and calls for moderation are only covered by the likes of the Guardian and Indie, which the bulk of the country are not with-it enough to read.

If by "these Muslims" you mean extremist groups like Islam4UK, al-Muhajiroun, then I agree with you. But people need to remember that away from the screaming headlines and radical preachers, there really are normal moderate Muslims getting on with life like anyone else - and they make up the bulk of Muslims, not the extremists - just like extremists like the BNP don't make for the bulk of Brits.

In this case, the best thing the press could do is not give them the oxygen of publicity.

I think we need to be very careful not to let the extremists at both ends hijack this debate. It always strikes me as ironic how the likes of the BNP and the extremist Muslim groups seem to be engaged in this odd dance where each group's actions and statements fuel each other. My own view is that it's non-progressives from both sides that are the problem, in their own way. If it was just us progressives and moderates in the middle, both within and outside Islam, there would be no problem. That's where the solution lies - in the middle, not at the extreme ends. Not through ramping up the rhetoric and driving the wedge of division in further.

But that's not what the press does...

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as you quote the British National Party its members are British..where as a lot of muslems demonstrating are not born in this country..
reading some of the Nationalist websites , if the march is allowed to go ahead it appears there will be a counter demonstration...

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Nationality and country of origin are not the same thing.

Plenty of immigrants born abroad now live here perfectly legally and consider themselves British.

They have as much right to protest as anyone else - unless we want to redefine the concept of nationality.

I'm not saying the march is a wise thing, but the country of origin shouldn't prevent them from protesting.

In this case either the protest is right or it is wrong.

If they are living here illegally, that is a separate matter.