Re: Irate Ireland

You keep forgetting, you need us more than we need you. It is the UK knocking on EU's door begging for another deal. But you spoiled the time you had. Now the clock is ticking, and there is only one road to leave. You know which way?
Indeed, may's deal.

Re: Irate Ireland

No deal is better than May's deal.

Re: Irate Ireland

The deal that we had is better than all the fancy ideas people are dreaming up but never mind that, we can always sing Rule Britannia and everything will be coming up roses!

Re: Irate Ireland

So how will these tax cutting measures be funded?

https://news.sky.com/story/no-deal-b...warns-11830354

Looks like a recipe for fiscal disaster

Re: Irate Ireland

Another ambiguous response from somebody who, by the sounds of it, works in absolutely every industry known to man in order to support his narrative. You have your answer, and any other reader on this forum can see the answer. You're just refusing to accept it because you're the quintessential leaver who just puts his fingers in his ears.

Which 2 counties who do not have freedom of movement use this magical technology you speak of? I am dying to hear your perils of wisdom based on your vast amount supply chain experience.

You won't answer my question above because you can't. There are no 2 countries who do not have freedom of movement of goods and people between them that solely use technology because it cannot be done. So your earlier point about the UK having it with other Non-EU counties is null and void.

So come on Bread. Tell me about those 2 countries

Re: Irate Ireland

It will be a total disaster. In all due respects, Moscow is talking out his rear end.

Re: Irate Ireland

Ofcourse it can be done- Ireland already has a border for VAT, currency etc - why do you need to build a wall to facilitate a customs area ?


Already something like 80-90% of imports and exports are done by AEOs on the Ireland of Ireland so we can extend what we already have, with customs areas away from the border for the 1-2% of inspections that are done (which are incidentally mostly done at random or via tip-off or for goods being transported that are outside the rules). This is just like we see in other countries like Holland.

Checks are carried out at destinations using companies QA and QC departments - that's what these departments are for so why do we need to go back to opening boxes on a geographical border when our current methods of trade work infinitely better ?

The common travel area is not in Schengen by the way, and, while we are on the subject of physical borders look at the "temporary" (that seem to be more like permanent ones) between Austria and Germany and France ... here we see Schengen countries breaching the rules of the single market and freedom of movement in the EU - their rules,!!!

Thats fine though isn't it !

E-borders support the frictionless trade between countries and is very much supported and favoured by the EU. Building physical borders would do the opposite and be in breach if the WTO's own initiatives. We don't live in 1975 anymore. Go and have a look at Felixstowe and what we do there with the rest of the world - we clear goods much faster than just about anyone else in the world.

Look at systems such as JD Edwards, SAP etc - they run world trade for large enterprises (such as the companies I work for - who use both) and a lot of trade is now done on line, with interfaces into customs systems, revenue systems to almost eliminate paper work, making it a thing of the past. Take VAT for example. If you do VAT returns (like I do) these are done about 60 days after the quarterly accounting period - never at the point of sale like you seem to think or on a border with a credit card handed over by the lorry driver like Yvette Cooper Balls seemed to think when she was asked last year. It's the same for VAT going across borders and other countries for duties etc. You really need to go and see how large companies operate globally, its nothing like what you and the career politicians seem to think.

Back to my question...

What catastrophe will an e-border system create ? You still refuse to answer

Re: Irate Ireland

I'm sorry to confirm that statement:

The document insists they are “largely tried and tested mechanisms” already used with the likes of Norway and Switzerland – while admitting they are inferior.

The 155-page – which follows the leak of the*Operation Yellowhammerwarnings of*food, fuel and medicine shortages*– also states:

* There “may be reduced availability and choice” of some food products – although “there would be no overall shortage”.
* UK ferry companies will be required to provide extensive data in order to continue operating, such as “last 10 ports visited, special or additional security measures taken by the ship, crew list and passenger list”.

* It will take “up to five days” for adult social care providers to import products from the EU.

* Emergency supplies of chemicals may have to be imported to “purify the water supply”, if the industry’s contingency plans are insufficient.

* The biggest suppliers of insulin, life-saving treatment for diabetics, have capacity to stockpile 18 weeks’ worth of supplies.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9147476.html

Re: Irate Ireland

18 weeks of warehousing is not a lot. Some bigger drug companies can warehouse for up to 4 years even more

Look what happens to the calais crossing when there is bad weather or industrial action by the French.

Get over it ....

Re: Irate Ireland

Thanks for showing your lack of expertise. Insulin, not aspirin. I can put you safely back on ignore for a few months.