24-10-2019, 10:46 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by Tedc
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Should all International trucking companies be made to be responsible for whatever is shipped here from abroad?Obviously, in this case, to company did little to have that lorry checked, thoroughly, at any stage.
It's someone's lorry & they should be totally responsible for it.
That might make drivers want to be more careful.
At the other end the containers are moved to another marshaling yard and collected by either a flat bed or an artic tractor unit depending on the container type.
It is entirely possible the driver who collected the thing had absolutely no knowledge that there were corpses inside the load he had just picked up.
24-10-2019, 10:48 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by Tedc
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Should all International trucking companies be made to be responsible for whatever is shipped here from abroad?Obviously, in this case, to company did little to have that lorry checked, thoroughly, at any stage.
It's someone's lorry & they should be totally responsible for it.
That might make drivers want to be more careful.
24-10-2019, 11:01 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by Ray Cathode
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I find it strange that there is little or no mention of the driver who drove the lorry off the ferry at Purfleet when the victims must have been in the trailer and possibly already dead. This tractor presumeably has since returned to the Continent. The Irish driver appears to have come over from NI after this happened.
It is also quite possible that the driver this end was just transporting a trailer to a UK address and knew nothing about the load other than what was shown on his job sheets.
Not quite so open and shut as it seems at first sight.
24-10-2019, 11:04 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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It was a container. BIG difference.
Every picture I have seen shows a refrigerated artic trailer, so someone drove it off the ferry.
24-10-2019, 11:16 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by Ray Cathode
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Every picture I have seen shows a refrigerated artic trailer, so someone drove it off the ferry.
At the other end they are taken to a marshalling yard to wait for the tractor unit that has been given the job to deliver it to its final destination.
It's commonplace because it means that the tractor unit is available to pick up a return load earning money and not off road where it is losing money plus the fare for a trailer is less than a trailer and it's associated trailer.
24-10-2019, 11:18 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Not at the port of embarkation.
24-10-2019, 11:25 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by Ray Cathode
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Every picture I have seen shows a refrigerated artic trailer, so someone drove it off the ferry.
refridgerated containers with plug in fridge units? So it is
possible as Todgy says to off load and on load the containers
by crane!
Another strange thing is that no mention has been made of
any other cargo in the container, which surely there must have been
as the fridge was in use?
Regards Donkeyman!
24-10-2019, 11:27 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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there are staff at ports who drive trailers onto ships if the load is just a trailer dropped at the marshalling yard to which it has been taken by port staff.At the other end they are taken to a marshalling yard to wait for the tractor unit that has been given the job to deliver it to its final destination.
It's commonplace because it means that the tractor unit is available to pick up a return load earning money and not off road where it is losing money plus the fare for a trailer is less than a trailer and it's associated trailer.
Yes, that makes sense and a quick google reveals the use of yard tugs for moving trailers without a tractor unit.
24-10-2019, 11:30 AM
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Re: 39 people found dead in lorry
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Thats the way l saw it to RC! But l believe there are such things asrefridgerated containers with plug in fridge units? So it is
possible as Todgy says to off load and on load the containers
by crane!
Another strange thing is that no mention has been made of
any other cargo in the container, which surely there must have been
as the fridge was in use?
Regards Donkeyman!
Whatever comes out of all this is the very real danger of open borders.
This could have been a Container full of Explosives! (or anything else) and it seems to have been routed through Europe & Ireland (North & South) & parts of the UK.
If nobody is going to check the contents of containers, at the various borders, that means that there could be a whole lot more to worry about in the future.
Can you imagine explosives being remotely triggered, on a ferry, or on a container ship?
Wow!
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