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19-08-2019, 12:54 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Anybody with a modicum of sense should have seen this coming, it's up to the big manufacturers in Germany and elsewhere to put pressure on the EU and tell them to stop screwing around with the UK....
I think you are right OGF, the natural economic laws will
now start to take over from bureuacracy and manipulations!
I hope Boris pulls it off as it will save a bit of time in
getting us out!
I also think Nigel and Boris should be open to forming an
alliance with the sole object of completeing the job of
seperation from eu, if they did this exit would be unstoppable
IMO, and once all has settled down again they can sort out
any differences they may have!

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19-08-2019, 01:07 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Realist ->
The tragedy is I think you actually believe the drivel you post there !

The EU has done and continues to do, everything it can to prevent the UK leaving. May was nothing but an EU puppet dutifully bowing to her EU masters and doing whatever they told her to do. The laughable Withdrawal Deal was not May's deal but rather the deal of the EU given to her to present to the UK parliament.
Total capitualtion. And rightly the UK Parliament rolled that deal up and told May and the EU where to stick it.

The EU is an embarrassing shambles and nothing but a group of powermad megalomaniacs revelling in the power they have acquired for themselves. Their time has come.

The UK people see through the lies and bluster and want no part of it any more.

There will NEVER EVER be a withdrawal deal because this pathetic bunch of childish fools will never offer one. They will only ever offer stupid deals that see the UK actually remain in the EU, a BrExit only in name.

The UK people will not stand for this, neither will parliament.

That's why the deal was rejected, that's why no other deal will replace it. That's why we are having to leave with NO DEAL.

So be it.

No Deal is THE ONLY WAY we will ever leave so everyone needs to get behind it, get prepared for the difficulties and make it happen.

BrExit is demonstrating to the entire world, the whole global stage, what a bunch of useless tyrants the EU is composed off. Leaving the EU is supposed to be a simple gentlemanly and perfectly legal part of the treaties. The EU have shown the world their true colours, their true aims for a totalitarian dictatorship and the lengths they will go to in order to achieve it.

Other member states will be suitably concerned by what has occured on that global stage. By what they have witnessed.
They will now be extremely concerned about the door being permanently locked as the UK slips out and being completely trapped inside the EU with no way out ever.

These member states have to act quickly to avoid that. Once that door shuts they are totally Daffy Ducked. Their respective nations need to act with their voices and feet and demand their own referendums as quickly as possible imho.
Their economies have already been shot and destroyed by the disastrous Eurozone imho. They need to get out as fast as possible, get their own currency back and stand on their own two feet.

And when they do . . . . . the UK will be there, ready and waiting to offer a helping hand and good trade deals.

There is light at the end of this dark tunnel that all have been plunged into through stealth and skullduggery.

Press on.

Exactly my thoughts Realist, a very good post BTW, as Swimmy
says at the moment it is all conjecture, but as events unfold
signs are allready showing that positions could be changing!
As usual our biggest dangers are within our own ranks!

Regards Donkeyman!
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19-08-2019, 01:07 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
You should know better Solly?
WA was rejected 3 times by POSHOC!
You know our parliamentary rules better than l do?
Why are you still waiting for us to ratify it???

VRegards Donkeyman!
Because that was the reason, the only reason, why you got an extension. Plus a warning by tusk, not to waste the given time.
Otherwise you would have been kicked out in march.
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19-08-2019, 01:13 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Moscow ->
That was a previous Gov't, a previous PM, didn't you know lol!
By your way of reasoning every time the new members of parliament are chosen, all the previous laws are rescinded. Your legal system is based on the habit of keeping every rule and law intact.
So your new pm is bound by the promises of his predecessor, so is government.
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19-08-2019, 01:18 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Exactly my thoughts Realist, a very good post BTW, as Swimmy
says at the moment it is all conjecture, but as events unfold
signs are allready showing that positions could be changing!
As usual our biggest dangers are within our own ranks!

Regards Donkeyman!
If these thoughts help you hanging on till november, you have my blessings.
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19-08-2019, 01:18 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Because that was the reason, the only reason, why you got an extension. Plus a warning by tusk, not to waste the given time.
Otherwise you would have been kicked out in march.
That would have suited me Solly!
Lets hope Tusk does not give US ?? Another chance again
this time as it could go on AD INFINITUM???

Rgards Donkeyman!
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19-08-2019, 01:25 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
That would have suited me Solly!
Lets hope Tusk does not give US ?? Another chance again
this time as it could go on AD INFINITUM???

Rgards Donkeyman!
Tusk is gone by november 1. What you suggest with ad infinitum is that article 50 is revoked by then. That solely is a choice of parliament.
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19-08-2019, 01:31 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Because that was the reason, the only reason, why you got an extension. Plus a warning by tusk, not to waste the given time.
Otherwise you would have been kicked out in march.
Either way you are short of 39 billion ....

On 1st November, the EU is insolvent. You must be proud of your unelected masters and the complete shambles they have made of negotiations. Who will make up the shortfall I wonder ? The German tax payer ?
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19-08-2019, 01:43 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
By your way of reasoning every time the new members of parliament are chosen, all the previous laws are rescinded. Your legal system is based on the habit of keeping every rule and law intact.
So your new pm is bound by the promises of his predecessor, so is government.
In a lot of your posts Solly you infer that uk owes eu some
money for something, l dont think uk has lagged behind in
any of the danegeld we have been obliged to pay to eu!
So perhaps you could clarify what it is exactly that we owe
you, lm certain that if something is owed, and you submit
an invoice with supporting credible documentation it will all
be sorted out when these interminable so called negotiations
are completed?

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19-08-2019, 01:44 PM
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Re: EU Poker . . A Desperate Germany Blinks First

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
How do you figure that? The growth rate for germany is down to 0,4%, the expected growth rate for the UK is 0,0%.
Bloody hell! We are in a panic because our growth for 2019, 2020 is predicted to be only about 2.75% because of the US trade war with China. My god, if the outlook was like yours I guess we'd have to cancel the barbie. How do you stand it?
 
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