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26-08-2009, 02:49 PM
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Teddy Kennedy..

...is now (according to the radio) a supreme Statesman. (He died in case you missed it). The eulogy this morning was amazing! What a wonderful guy, I thought...and there was me all these years thinking he was a spoilt rich kid from one of America`s most powerful families who`d proved himself a coward by running away when he`d got drunk and driven his date into a river and killed her.
Now John, yes - charismatic and inspirational (although his brinkmanship could have ended the world) - and Bobby, yes, because he did try to push progressive legislation through before his assassination.
But Ted? Maybe the US people can put me right - I really didn`t think he was that wonderful.
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26-08-2009, 02:54 PM
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Light and shade in everyone and, of course, immediately after a death, the memories tend to be good ones.
Yes- very flawed. The car crash for one, and many years of heavy drinking (probably a contributory factor to the car crash). Also, may well have by accident or design aided the IRA by promoting the republican cause and the whole Irish atavistic thing in the US.
BUT, in the end, he was a major mover in the NI peace process and you have to look to the future not the past in international politics.
He was a strong socialist, in a country where they tend to be reviled, and spoke up for those with no voice.
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26-08-2009, 04:49 PM
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DM has put it very well. He was a flawed human being (as are we all), but his latter years redeemed him in most peoples eyes. He was our old lion in Congress, always fought for the little people, fought hard and long for reform of our health system. As I said in my post in Catsey, we shall not see his like again.
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26-08-2009, 05:50 PM
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RIP Teddy Kennedy, whatever his faults it feels like the end of an era.
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26-08-2009, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by moetmum ->
RIP Teddy Kennedy, whatever his faults it feels like the end of an era.
Have to agree. Could never really make my mind up about him-but I always believe there is good and not so good in everyone-RIP
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26-08-2009, 11:23 PM
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OK RIP but he was a politician in a foreign country, he never achieved high office and yet he gets star billing in all the news bulletins in this country.

Hello BBC and ITV this is UK not USA domestic news should come first.
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27-08-2009, 07:25 AM
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Yes -we haven't heard of 'Jordan' just lately -has she gone back to 'party' in Ibiza?
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27-08-2009, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by claireandaisy ->
...is now (according to the radio) a supreme Statesman. (He died in case you missed it). The eulogy this morning was amazing! What a wonderful guy, I thought...and there was me all these years thinking he was a spoilt rich kid from one of America`s most powerful families who`d proved himself a coward by running away when he`d got drunk and driven his date into a river and killed her.
Now John, yes - charismatic and inspirational (although his brinkmanship could have ended the world) - and Bobby, yes, because he did try to push progressive legislation through before his assassination.
But Ted? Maybe the US people can put me right - I really didn`t think he was that wonderful.
Well put, cant really say much more... was reading an article on him this morning, and you forget he left that girl "alive" in the car to save his own neck..went home took a shower, had a nights sleep then called his lawyer now thats the true man he was... maybe he did redeem himself in later yrs, but I am sure the family of the girl he allowed to dies dont feel sympathy for him.

According to the report in the paper, she was still alive for hours, caught in an air pocket.. but eventually died, if he had gotten help earlier, she would have lived.

One also wonders, if he did not have "that name" attacked to him, would he have served a few yrs in prison for manslaughter/murder.

I dont know about the US, but the rest of the world will remember him for that, and nothing else!!
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27-08-2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie ->

I dont know about the US, but the rest of the world will remember him for that, and nothing else!!


Am on an obscure American forum and most of the posters either D or R do not think a lot of him as a person, as a politician they see someone in politics who thought of others and tried to make things better for the less fortunate American.

As a man a very nasty person, left a women to die and after having three children had his marriage annulled to their mother.
 

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