23-07-2019, 03:31 PM
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Re: No deal Brexit more damaging than BSE crisis
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiThe info is here.
http://beefandlamb.ahdb.org.uk/marke...der-wto-rules/
No Deal means Tariffs on UK Lamb exports to the EU of between 40 and 90%, that means our farmers will be making a loss on every lamb, not a profit.
23-07-2019, 03:33 PM
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Re: No deal Brexit more damaging than BSE crisis
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiReally?
UK Lamb cannot compete on those levels of Tariffs, our production costs are much higher.
Export elsewhere is also not an option because of Tariffs.
Lamb is expensive, people buy what they can afford.
A lot of ordinary people buy chicken and pork, much cheaper alternatives.
As you say, Go Boris.
This is one of the problems he has to sort out.
A genuine good luck to him, we will need it.
Eh ? Export of our lamb is not an option ? If the EU common external tarrif on lamb is 40% to 90% (as you say - I'll take your word for it) then we export to countries that have lower tarrifs instead. Or even better, set up our own trade deals ... imagine that !
23-07-2019, 03:38 PM
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Re: No deal Brexit more damaging than BSE crisis
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiReally?
UK Lamb cannot compete on those levels of Tariffs, our production costs are much higher.
As you say, Go Boris.
This is one of the problems he has to sort out.
A genuine good luck to him, we will need it.
Question: does new zealand at present pay the same tariffs as the UK would as a third country? And NZ is still competitive with britain's mutton without tariffs?
23-07-2019, 03:41 PM
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Re: No deal Brexit more damaging than BSE crisis
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Production of a lamb costs on average, £ 193. https://meatpromotion.wales/en/indus...-of-productionQuestion: does new zealand at present pay the same tariffs as the UK would as a third country? And NZ is still competitive with britain's mutton without tariffs?
23-07-2019, 04:39 PM
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Re: No deal Brexit more damaging than BSE crisis
Originally Posted by Bread
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Eh ? Export of our lamb is not an option ? If the EU common external tarrif on lamb is 40% to 90% (as you say - I'll take your word for it) then we export to countries that have lower tarrifs instead. Or even better, set up our own trade deals ... imagine that !
No need to take my word for it, read the link.
Exporting to Countries with lower Tariffs?
We cannot meet production costs, so ours will still be more expensive.
Set up our own Trade Deals.
Yes, that is what we are wanting to do, but it takes years and others already have Trade Deals and lower production costs.
The facts of the matter are here
https://www.agmrc.org/commodities-pr...l-lamb-profile
No Deal means leaving the World's biggest importer, the EU, to which we have tariff and Quota Free access and competing with Countries which have lower production costs and existing Trade Deals.
Squaring that circle by the end of October will be difficult.
23-07-2019, 05:03 PM
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Re: No deal Brexit more damaging than BSE crisis
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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Set up our own Trade Deals.Yes, that is what we are wanting to do, but it takes years and others already have Trade Deals and lower production costs.
If we ARE ever allowed to leave, which I seriously seriously now doubt then all this "catastrophe" BS will quickly be exposed for the crap it is.
We were told by the arch Liar Blair that NOT joining the Eurozone would be a catastrophe, that it would not be in the national interest to stay out. But stay out we did and his "Project Fear" BS was exposed for all it was. Thank god we stayed out of the Euro. It has been an utter catastrophe for so many countries.
With Boris now in No 10 the EU stooge Remaniacs are going to go hell for leather with the "No Deal will be catastrophic" as this very thread demonstrates ably.
We will find ways to meet the challenges and we will prosper if we are ever allowed out of the EU cesspit.
Unfortunately we are highly likely to be purposely kept in the EU. Sad and sorry days for democracy and the British Constitution.
23-07-2019, 05:28 PM
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Re: No deal Brexit more damaging than BSE crisis
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiThe info is here.
http://beefandlamb.ahdb.org.uk/marke...der-wto-rules/
No Deal means Tariffs on UK Lamb exports to the EU of between 40 and 90%, that means our farmers will be making a loss on every lamb, not a profit.
No longer a problem though, it's just far too complicated for me so I will revert to my usual practice of not posting on Brexit threads. I just don't understand it well enough, other than thinking rightly or wrongly that we have been well and truly stitched-up all ways round!
Thanks anyway, much obliged.
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