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22-01-2021, 11:40 AM
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Is this the start of a post-Brexit boom?

A new factory to produce Lithium batteries got the go-ahead in December, at which time I said that this would be a positive for the UK.

Home-produced (Cornwall) Lithium + a battery megafactory = incentives for auto production in the UK.
Batteries are a major cost in auto production in the new era of auto manufacturing, just as combustion engines once were - and there aren't many places producing and manufacturing lithium batteries.

Well today comes news that Nissan are committing to manufacturing long-term here in the UK, after years of threatening to withdraw since the referendum was announced.

Better yet, they say:
' "the agreement will give it a "competitive advantage" as it committed to produce new electric vehicle batteries at its Sunderland plant.'

Indeed.
It will hopefully be a precursor for other manufacturers to think likewise and grasp the opportunities the UK now provides.
Boris seems to think so too.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN29R0VI

https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-bo...ntage-12194667

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/t...ry-gigafactory
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22-01-2021, 12:13 PM
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Re: Is this the start of a post-Brexit boom?

I wouldn't read too much into it, everywhere is experiencing a bit of a boom as part of the recovery from Covid and government spending but there is still a long way to go.

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22-01-2021, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce ->
I wouldn't read too much into it, everywhere is experiencing a bit of a boom as part of the recovery from Covid and government spending but there is still a long way to go.
Of course there's a long way to go but IMHO you're missing the obvious.

Nissan/Renault for example were going to scale back European production even going so far as to close the Barcelona plant, and we all know about the threats to close Sunderland.
We've seen them frequently ....... up until now.
Having Lithium, the battery manufacturing facilities and an experienced workforce at a time when the auto industry is undergoing huge change was obviously a huge deciding factor for Nissan; they said as much.

When not many places in Europe can provide what the UK can and in doing so (as Nissan said) provide a competetive advantage over other auto manufacturers in the region, the future looks very promising.
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22-01-2021, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
Having Lithium, the battery manufacturing facilities and an experienced workforce at a time when the auto industry is undergoing huge change was obviously a huge deciding factor for Nissan; they said as much.
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Well, if you want cheap lithium as the world's biggest producer of the stuff we have it by the bucketful
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Well, if you want cheap lithium as the world's biggest producer of the stuff we have it by the bucketful
Nah, you sell yours to the Chinese etc., especially as you need to make up for what they won't buy off you any more.
We have our own ta which is better than carting the stuff half way around the world.
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Nah, you sell yours to the Chinese etc., especially as you need to make up for what they won't buy off you any more.
We have our own ta which is better than carting the stuff half way around the world.
No need to make up for what the Chinese don't buy off us. When they banned our coal they had to go to Russia and South America for coal which pushed the world price up. The countries that used to buy coal from those places came rushing to Australia to buy it in such quantities that our exports aren't even dented. So don't you worry your pretty little heads about us.

Oh! I understand it... you have to use 30% local lithium as part of your Brexit deal with the EU - that explains it. I have no doubt we will be supplying the other 70% to keep the cost down.
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22-01-2021, 01:00 PM
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Rules of origin require 55% of UK Content.

We need to get going.
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22-01-2021, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce ->
No need to make up for what the Chinese don't buy off us. When they banned our coal they had to go to Russia and South America for coal which pushed the world price up. The countries that used to buy coal from those places came rushing to Australia to buy it in such quantities that our exports aren't even dented. So don't you worry your pretty little heads about us.

Oh! I understand it... you have to use 30% local lithium as part of your Brexit deal with the EU - that explains it. I have no doubt we will be supplying the other 70% to keep the cost down.
Can't you read Brucy, we are out of the EU now, so how does the
local content come into it?
From what you say, it seems Australia could be accused of dumping
their coal in China at give away prices and thus fuelling global
warming??

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...NATO-latest-vn


David Frum, an author and Republican speechwriter, explained the US always wanted the UK to have close ties to the rest of Europe so they could further US interests. Despite US powers being generally opposed to Brexit with the exception of Donald Trump, Mr Frum says “it’s water under the bridge” and says the US and Joe Biden care very deeply about the UK. He also signalled Mr Biden may seek to strike an agreement with the UK quickly to ensure the country maintains some levels of control over France and Germany being too influential on the continent.
 
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