25-04-2021, 06:22 PM
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Re: Making the same mistakes
Originally Posted by Pixie Knuckles
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I only recently found out that if a car goes wrong, you take it to the garage and they plug it into a computer to check what the problem is! 
A USB port for your car! Is this what car mechanics have evolved into? Thank goodness I don't drive.....
25-04-2021, 07:13 PM
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Re: Making the same mistakes
Originally Posted by RJG
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I have been able to drive since I was twelve, we had a large property, which enabled me to do so. I hope I can drive for a few more years yet, although I don't go long distances these days, and steer clear of the motorways too.
Thing is that modern cars are so highly instrumented and need to run so efficiently that this is necessary. My current beast has somewhere around 80 computers of various sorts and in excess of 100 sensors all over it. OK a Moggie Minor it ain't but when it comes to efficiency it beats an old Moggie hands down in terms of power out Vs petrol in.
One example of the role now taken by onboard computers are the lights. No complexity of wiring looms, just two wires.
One single power feed common to all lights and another single wire - a data bus which fits into a control module for each light cluster. The same data bus is bi directional and serves other control modules (don't know what, where, or what they do) but include split rear heater and sensors, courtesy lights, rear a/c motors, and no doubt other things I've not encountered yet - and all run by two wires only.
As for the lump under the bonnet and all its bits - don't ask ('cos I just don't know) but the result is that by connecting the right machine running the right software into the Master Control Unit in a matter of no time at all any defect can be identified along with advised remedial action.
Would I go back to a Moggie Minor?
No way Jose!
25-04-2021, 08:04 PM
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Re: Making the same mistakes
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Not a usb port but a data port which performs a similar functionOne single power feed common to all lights and another single wire - a data bus which fits into a control module for each light cluster. The same data bus is bi directional and serves other control modules (don't know what, where, or what they do) but include split rear heater and sensors, courtesy lights, rear a/c motors, and no doubt other things I've not encountered yet - and all run by two wires only.
Would I go back to a Moggie Minor?
No way Jose!
25-04-2021, 08:33 PM
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Re: Making the same mistakes
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Not a usb port but a data port which performs a similar function.Thing is that modern cars are so highly instrumented and need to run so efficiently that this is necessary. My current beast has somewhere around 80 computers of various sorts and in excess of 100 sensors all over it. OK a Moggie Minor it ain't but when it comes to efficiency it beats an old Moggie hands down in terms of power out Vs petrol in.
One example of the role now taken by onboard computers are the lights. No complexity of wiring looms, just two wires.
One single power feed common to all lights and another single wire - a data bus which fits into a control module for each light cluster. The same data bus is bi directional and serves other control modules (don't know what, where, or what they do) but include split rear heater and sensors, courtesy lights, rear a/c motors, and no doubt other things I've not encountered yet - and all run by two wires only.
As for the lump under the bonnet and all its bits - don't ask ('cos I just don't know) but the result is that by connecting the right machine running the right software into the Master Control Unit in a matter of no time at all any defect can be identified along with advised remedial action.
Would I go back to a Moggie Minor?
No way Jose!
I had a Moggie pick-up once, then the Traveller, and then the Saloon - never had one with the split windscreen though.
They all got me from A-B just the same as my car does now, and without all the expensive computerised bits.
Loved 'em.
25-04-2021, 09:02 PM
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Re: Making the same mistakes
Originally Posted by Mups
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I had a Moggie pick-up once, then the Traveller, and then the Saloon - never had one with the split windscreen though. They all got me from A-B just the same as my car does now, and without all the expensive computerised bits.
Loved 'em.
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