Re: Anybody seen Barmier ???
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I am afraid that I do not understand what you mean.
It is maybe a matter of definition but the EU spent quite some time and effort to negotiate the WA. For me that seems amicable if I am not mistaken.
An alternative could have been to present the divorce bill, say "you are out" and close all doors without further negotiation.
Maybe we were just not prepared for one country leaving and made mistakes. Next time it will be easier I am sure (unless the next will be DE, FR or IT).
I wish you all a nice weekend as I am logging off for today.
I read that you're logging off but I felt that I should reply, and who knows? You may read this another time.
You don't understand my belief that the EU would rather sacrifice their own citizens rather than amicably seek a deal?
Well for a start, not agreeing a basic trade deal will harm many thousands of EU employees across a number of countries, and Germany is likely to be worst-hit.
I say this because anything interrupting the free movement of goods and the imposition of tariffs will cause a decrease in trade, obviously at the expense of jobs.
The big problem for the EU is that the UK can source replacement trade where it wishes; it is far more problematic for a ponderous union to effect the change required to both source and sell elsewhere than the current options.
As for the EU spending time & negotiating the WA - surely you see that this works both ways?
Not only that but here in the UK we saw not only a dismissive and often derogatory tone taken by the EU at the same time that (it strongly appears) some of our own politicians were actively colluding with the EU in an attempt to deny voters their Brexit.
As an example: there was nothing amicable about the EU dictating the manner in which Brexit would progress, insisting upon a withdrawal agreement before discussing the practicalities like trade.
That's what led to the difficulties we all face now as time is running out and the fault lays purely and simply with the EU
and our own devious politicians of the time - but the 2019 election proved the British public's determination and at the same time rid us of many of these devious politicians.
Please don't make the mistake of thinking that - if there eventually is no deal between the UK and the EU - the WA will remain in force.
The likelihood is that the UK would annul it completely, and there is much written about this to suggest it to be entirely feasible and completely within the laaw.
Then you should consider the very real possibility of the UK suing the EU for not acting in good faith regarding Brexit, and this has the very real possibility of becoming a very huge sum which the EU would be obliged to pay the UK.
I hope that provides food for thought since, I assure you, this is a very likely outcome for the EU should a deal with the UK not be reached.
In years to come, how highly do you think your average EU citizen would regard the EU after seeing not only many thousands of jobs lost across the union but in addition a compensatory payment of many billions of Euros being paid to the UK purely because of a few EU politician's and their deliberate attempted persecution of a former member state?