Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

We are talking about trains and your talking about infrastructure

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

No, you’re struggling with your comprehension again

I spoke of both

Foreign investment in rolling stock and taxpayer / passenger funding

And...

Rail infrastructure, without which the rolling stock would be pretty useless and which is largely taxpayer funded. The two are inextricably intertwined

The important fact is that Abellio buying trains (although leasing would be more accurate) has nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit as the requirement is determined the franchise so the pretext of your initial post is pure BS

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

You should read what you wrote if you want s good example of incomprehensible babble ^^^

I think you will find that your Doom and gloom project fear nonsense gets frequently torn apart everytime we get a huge chunk of foreign investment.

As for the UK tax payer ... I take it you have no problem with them paying into the Cohesion Fund to the tune of hundreds of millions a year for roads and rail in EU member states like Poland when we get nothing back in return.

Where is our EU funding for railways and roads?

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

Yet again you write a load twaddle and demonstrate you have little understanding of the facts

Where do you not understand that foreign investment that was already determined before the Brexit referendum does not demonstrate that what you call “project fear doom and gloom” is right or wrong and hailing the tender decision as a Brexit win just exposes your lack of understanding and makes you look foolish

As a UK taxpayer I have no problem paying tax and if some of that tax goes to the EU Cohesion Fund. You claim we get nothing back in return which is patently not true as In the 2014-2020 spending cycle the UK has been allocated around 11.8 billion Euros of funding

Where is the funding? We’ll road and rail received plenty of funding for many projects under the connecting Europe scheme, mainly from dft applications but also from other organisations

So in one post of yours we have three pieces of Fake News.

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

Nope

We get nothing back from the cohesion fund - check it out. Secondly we are a net contributor- either you dont understand what this means or your maths is worse than Diane Abbotts

We get no EU funding for our railways even though we have Victorian infrastructure in some parts of our track. There is no EU funding for HS2 either even though we fund Polands underground railways (for example)

The UK is the fastest growing economy of the 28 Member States ... despite Brexit. A lot of that has down to foreign investment which happened since the referendum. The figures are calculated quarterly and by fiscal year.

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

Well, no. The new carriages will start operating in 2022.Right now East Midlands Trains (of which Stagecoach is the current franchise holder) operates a fleet of elderly HSTs in addition to more modern Meridien trainsets, but the HSTs are*supposed to be retired*at the end of this year.
So between 2019 en 2022 passengers will either not be transported or transported in old unsafe carriages. If asked why the decision to build new carriages wasn't made two years before, what do you think the answer will be? https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...railway-fleet/

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

Are you really that dim that you think we would put "unsafe trains" in service ?

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

Why do you peddle fake news?

https://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy...united-kingdom

Cohesion funds were allocated and used

As for railway investment, best you stick to talking about treatments for piles

https://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/n...-eu-funding_en

The Ashford Spurs project has been completed as have many others. The list in the link above is obviously not exhaustive as the EU also funded a major signalling project in Cornwall

I thought the jaded old “Net Contributor” argument only fooled idiots. If you only use infant school maths and just consider what we pay in minus what we get back in direct grants and rebates then you might think we pay in more than we get out. However life and economics are not as simple as that and you need to consider the financial contributions derived from membership of the EU such as the tax receipts generated by passporting of financial sector

Yes we were the fastest growing economy and doing very well as a member of the EU but, since the referendum investment has been slowing. There have been pockets of foreign investment but generally the outlook doesn’t look good if the rumblings of industry are to be believed and there is talk of recession if there is a no deal Brexit

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

Don't tell me you've just spent 2 days googling up your answers again...

Do you know what net contributor means ? I don't think you do... it means we put in more than we take out, it's our money ...

Secondly, the cohesion fund is in addition to our net contributions. It's what is called "off book". All the money we pay in never comes back - thats why its called a "fund".

You make me laugh you do. You and your mate.

I also asked you specifically about the funding for HS2 - you cannot answer can you

Re: The Brexit Doom Continues.

Why is it mostly Brexiteers that post the doom and gloom?