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14-08-2019, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gascony ->
So the consensus here is an imminent GE, rather than a new referendum or a crash out with no deal? What's the chances of a GE to enable a crash out on 31 Oct? Or a GE which leads to a Tory/Brexit MP majority ... and then a no deal exit?
Do we honestly believe that the EU will concede to dropping the back stop? Or maybe the Tory/Brexit majority will mean ditching the DUP and putting the UK/EU border in the Irish Sea...?
A lettre to the times published august 12.

Sir

Vernon Bogdanor suggests three ways of preventing or reversing a no-deal Brexit (“How the Commons could thwart Boris Johnson’s no-deal Brexit”, 9 August). All of them are legally misconceived. Parliament cannot “pass legislation extending the Brexit date”. The most it can do in this respect is require the Prime Minister to seek an extension. Nor would repealing the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017 have any relevant effect. It authorised the triggering of Article 50, but its repeal would not halt the withdrawal process. Finally, it is suggested that a Remain Parliament elected after 31 October could, with the EU’s agreement, legislate retrospectively to deem the UK never to have withdrawn. But withdrawal occurs by default operation of EU law on Hallowe’en. Domestic legislation cannot alter that, and the EU Treaties provide no legal basis for retrospectively restoring UK membership. If Parliament is serious about preventing a no-deal Brexit, the only legally watertight way of doing so is the enactment of legislation requiring the Prime Minister to revoke the UK’s Article 50 notification.

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14-08-2019, 02:49 PM
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There will be no crash out, UK just leaves.
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14-08-2019, 03:13 PM
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There will be no crash out, UK just leaves.
Without a deal, it's a knock out.
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14-08-2019, 04:39 PM
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Thats because you don't understand how the customs union works.

Ur, excuse me I think I do, at least to the point of not wishing to duplicate all that we have in the first place!!!
And not of course having been brain washed in to believing that the EU is run for the good of sorely Germany and France.
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14-08-2019, 04:53 PM
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Ur, excuse me I think I do, at least to the point of not wishing to duplicate all that we have in the first place!!!
And not of course having been brain washed in to believing that the EU is run for the good of sorely Germany and France.
So you are seriously attempting to inform us that Germany and France are not the two major states that have benefited most from the first formation of the Common Market up until today? that statement is breathtaking!!
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14-08-2019, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
So you are seriously attempting to inform us that Germany and France are not the two major states that have benefited most from the first formation of the Common Market up until today? that statement is breathtaking!!
Perhaps it differs by sector? https://www.euractiv.com/section/ene...uel-subsidies/
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14-08-2019, 05:31 PM
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Your forgetting the 23million that didn't vote to leave.
Misleading again itsme! what your statement above should
have said was,
52% voted leave
47% voted remain
Out of a voter turn out of over 70% which is considered a
high turn out
Nowhere does that produce figures like yours?
You seem unable to process information that does not
agree with your views, therefore it is impossible to have
a sane debate with you

Regards Donkeyman!
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14-08-2019, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Perhaps it differs by sector? https://www.euractiv.com/section/ene...uel-subsidies/

France - agriculture

Germany - manufacturing

You mean those sectors
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14-08-2019, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gascony ->
So the consensus here is an imminent GE, rather than a new referendum or a crash out with no deal? What's the chances of a GE to enable a crash out on 31 Oct? Or a GE which leads to a Tory/Brexit MP majority ... and then a no deal exit?
Do we honestly believe that the EU will concede to dropping the back stop? Or maybe the Tory/Brexit majority will mean ditching the DUP and putting the UK/EU border in the Irish Sea...?
A GE is what is going to happen Gascony! Nothing can
stop it now unless a large group of poloticians change their
stance before leave date, and allthough not impossible it is
highly improbable, lt is probably the only way to get a clear
result now that parliament seems to have set itself against
the people
We must take our chance now to clear out the rotten wood
in parliament to match the renovations to the buildings!

Regards Donkeyman!
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14-08-2019, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
So you are seriously attempting to inform us that Germany and France are not the two major states that have benefited most from the first formation of the Common Market up until today? that statement is breathtaking!!

Evidence my dear, evidence! otherwise it's just brexit BS.
 
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