02-09-2019, 11:08 AM
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Thank you.Very true JBR. I would be very surprised if Boris were to ever put himself in the position where he would come up against Nigel. I believe he would go for somewhere towards end of November/beginning of December.
I did read that if he went for an election on his own he would end up with a majority of 28, but.... if he takes up Nigel's offer to do exactly what the LimpDems did with the other opposition parties with the last by-election, and use tactical voting throughout between the Tories and the Brexit Party, his overall majority would be 84/85! A clear cut win and Nigel entitled to a Peerage!!
Of course, this is on the proviso that the GE was not called until AFTER we leave the EU, not before. That could be trouble so I hope Boris is more sensible than that.
As for the apathy of disillusioned voters. Yes, there is a danger of that happening, that's why it is essential that Boris does not have a GE before 31st October. If he does, voters such as you say, will have not had any joy from when they last voted over 3 years ago, which would seem to be more like 300 years the way they have been betrayed.
However, if they see that Brexit has been delivered and democracy restored, it will give them the will to thank the man (or men) who made it happen, despite all the plots. subterfuge and treachery that has been happening.
Well, that's the way I see it.
02-09-2019, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Thank you.Very true JBR. I would be very surprised if Boris were to ever put himself in the position where he would come up against Nigel. I believe he would go for somewhere towards end of November/beginning of December.
I did read that if he went for an election on his own he would end up with a majority of 28, but.... if he takes up Nigel's offer to do exactly what the LimpDems did with the other opposition parties with the last by-election, and use tactical voting throughout between the Tories and the Brexit Party, his overall majority would be 84/85! A clear cut win and Nigel entitled to a Peerage!!
Of course, this is on the proviso that the GE was not called until AFTER we leave the EU, not before. That could be trouble so I hope Boris is more sensible than that.
As for the apathy of disillusioned voters. Yes, there is a danger of that happening, that's why it is essential that Boris does not have a GE before 31st October. If he does, voters such as you say, will have not had any joy from when they last voted over 3 years ago, which would seem to be more like 300 years the way they have been betrayed.
However, if they see that Brexit has been delivered and democracy restored, it will give them the will to thank the man (or men) who made it happen, despite all the plots. subterfuge and treachery that has been happening.
Well, that's the way I see it.
I hope so.
02-09-2019, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Thank you.Very true JBR. I would be very surprised if Boris were to ever put himself in the position where he would come up against Nigel. I believe he would go for somewhere towards end of November/beginning of December.
I did read that if he went for an election on his own he would end up with a majority of 28, but.... if he takes up Nigel's offer to do exactly what the LimpDems did with the other opposition parties with the last by-election, and use tactical voting throughout between the Tories and the Brexit Party, his overall majority would be 84/85! A clear cut win and Nigel entitled to a Peerage!!
Of course, this is on the proviso that the GE was not called until AFTER we leave the EU, not before. That could be trouble so I hope Boris is more sensible than that.
As for the apathy of disillusioned voters. Yes, there is a danger of that happening, that's why it is essential that Boris does not have a GE before 31st October. If he does, voters such as you say, will have not had any joy from when they last voted over 3 years ago, which would seem to be more like 300 years the way they have been betrayed.
However, if they see that Brexit has been delivered and democracy restored, it will give them the will to thank the man (or men) who made it happen, despite all the plots. subterfuge and treachery that has been happening.
Well, that's the way I see it.
So true !
Boris doesn't need a GE to get brexit over the line. What he does need is support from his own party and for them to unite behind him. Phil Hammond is now questioning what we have in place to deal with a no deal Brexit so it seems the threats of terminating the careers of the saboteurs could be doing the trick.
Even if Boris only gets 50% of those who will vote against him to vote for him its game over for remain. Gauke too appears to be having second thoughts so hopefully their minions will follow their lead.
It's going to he close, the question is, how close ... I've said time and time again, a corbyn government is a bigger threat to our economy than a no deal Brexit so let's see how many sabaturs bluff can be called tomorrow.
02-09-2019, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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Boris doesn't need a GE to get brexit over the line. What he does need is support from his own party and for them to unite behind him. Phil Hammond is now questioning what we have in place to deal with a no deal Brexit so it seems the threats of terminating the careers of the saboteurs could be doing the trick.Even if Boris only gets 50% of those who will vote against him to vote for him its game over for remain. Gauke too appears to be having second thoughts so hopefully their minions will follow their lead.
It's going to he close, the question is, how close ... I've said time and time again, a corbyn government is a bigger threat to our economy than a no deal Brexit so let's see how many sabaturs bluff can be called tomorrow.
That says a lot (the emboldened bit). It just goes to show how seriously the dishonest rebels feel about the situation. Hammond seems to be more concerned about his continuing position as an MP than whatever it is (money?) that is prompting him to go against democracy.
That's what they all need: a hard line from their leader. What a shame that Treason May couldn't do that but, of course, we all now know that she was an EU fifth-columnist.
Boris appears to be doing the right thing.
02-09-2019, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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Good news.That says a lot (the emboldened bit). It just goes to show how seriously the dishonest rebels feel about the situation. Hammond seems to be more concerned about his continuing position as an MP than whatever it is (money?) that is prompting him to go against democracy.
That's what they all need: a hard line from their leader. What a shame that Treason May couldn't do that but, of course, we all now know that she was an EU fifth-columnist.
Boris appears to be doing the right thing.
Just heard his speech and he didn't call a general election...
Let's hope he survives tomorrow...
03-09-2019, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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God, show boris the light he is so looking for, and help him save the UK.
"I see no ships" (Actually I see no signal) As quoted by Horatio Lord Nelson when at the Battle of Copenhagen said he could not see the signal calling on him to end the action and retreat
03-09-2019, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd
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Or....."I see no ships" (Actually I see no signal) As quoted by Horatio Lord Nelson when at the Battle of Copenhagen said he could not see the signal calling on him to end the action and retreat
Ah, that's who we need in the present political climate: another Nelson.
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