04-09-2019, 01:50 AM
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Re: Government Loses its Working Majority
It looks like the clown prince is stuffed. I heard on the radio this morning that Labour have effectively set the agenda and the government lost 328 to 301.I don't understand why the government didn't just filibuster - ie just talk and talk until time runs out and there is no time for a vote. Perhaps they can't manage it?
There seems to be little point in an election because you will probably end up with a similar parliament because of your daft voting system (won't you?).
Does Brexit looks less likely by the day? Because it looks like any deal is likely to be an exit with all the disadvantages of being in the EU and none of the advantages.
I have to say that once again I am glad I am outside looking in at this debacle.
04-09-2019, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Then he should read the renowned article 50, paragraph 4:For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
04-09-2019, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Then he should read the renowned article 50, paragraph 4:For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
That does not mean we do not have a veto. We are still a full EU member.
04-09-2019, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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That does not mean we do not have a veto. We are still a full EU member.
We have No Veto, the negotiations are between the UK and the EU.
We can no more veto the EU position than the EU can veto the position of our Government.
04-09-2019, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiWe have No Veto, the negotiations are between the UK and the EU.
We can no more veto the EU position than the EU can veto the position of our Government.
We are a full member of the European Union, bound by all of the treaties. We do not participate in the day to day activities of the EU Parliament but we do retain our right of veto as an EU Member.
The Queen can also veto the latest stunt by the remainers.
04-09-2019, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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Wrong.We are a full member of the European Union, bound by all of the treaties. We do not participate in the day to day activities of the EU Parliament but we do retain our right of veto as an EU Member.
04-09-2019, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tedc
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The Telegraph agrees with you there, Bread, and even points out that Boris could even go over there and veto UK's own motions (no pun intended).
Thanks for that !
04-09-2019, 09:12 AM
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Re: Government Loses its Working Majority
Originally Posted by Bread
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Wrong.We are a full member of the European Union, bound by all of the treaties. We do not participate in the day to day activities of the EU Parliament but we do retain our right of veto as an EU Member.
The Queen can also veto the latest stunt by the remainers.
I think at least one other member state might veto the request anyway.
04-09-2019, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce
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It looks like the clown prince is stuffed. I heard on the radio this morning that Labour have effectively set the agenda and the government lost 328 to 301.I don't understand why the government didn't just filibuster - ie just talk and talk until time runs out and there is no time for a vote. Perhaps they can't manage it?
There seems to be little point in an election because you will probably end up with a similar parliament because of your daft voting system (won't you?).
Does Brexit looks less likely by the day? Because it looks like any deal is likely to be an exit with all the disadvantages of being in the EU and none of the advantages.
I have to say that once again I am glad I am outside looking in at this debacle.
Lets face it Brucy, Boris never really had a chance did he?
But like yourself l also question why he started this off so
early, why did'nt he wait as long as he could??
However it is what it is, the question is now, what is it??
( tongue in cheek)! I see you do believe there are disadvantages
to membership after all?
Regards Donkeyman!
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