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06-09-2019, 05:29 PM
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Illegal Immigrants Crossing the Channel.

I was just reading that in January 2019, Sajid Javid signed an agreement between Britain and France to return all immigrants who cross the channel in small and unsafe boats and have either registered for asylum in France or Belgium, or travelled illegally to France or Belgium via other EU countries.

Britain paid £6million to France to ensure proper equipment is in place to ensure they do not cross, plus put a stop to the traffickers. Closed Circuit TV in the ports and near waterfronts, thermal imaging and drone use, as well as extra officers to patrol beaches. All were to be monitored at the port of Calais by both British and French officials. Here in the UK we presently have 2 cutters and one naval vessel to patrol our waters, the naval vessel will be replaced in February by two more cutters.

Fast forward to today, 6 September 19, 900 people have made the crossing, of which just 65 have been returned. PritI Patel, who took over from Sajid Javid, has had talks with the French authorities over the seriousness of so many numbers coming across. It's unbelievable that out of the 900 who have managed to make it across this year, only 65 have been returned. That is a good use of £6 million pounds of taxpayers money! NOT!

Do you think that is value for money? Or am I not seeing the bigger picture and unable to see how many they have managed to stop from making such a perilous journey? I can never seem to find any figures for this.
but it certainly does not seem value for money so far.
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06-09-2019, 05:32 PM
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Crossing the Channel.

I think it's apalling Shrops .
People are coming here everyday it seems .
Why do they want to come here ?
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06-09-2019, 05:39 PM
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Crossing the Channel.

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
I think it's apalling Shrops .
People are coming here everyday it seems .
Why do they want to come here ?
Free housing,free food, free clothing, free medical care, free education, free settling in grants and more- at least free to them.

Not free to us though.

We pay for them.
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06-09-2019, 07:06 PM
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Hi

We already have such an agreement in place, been in place for years, May did not return them as she could have done.

Instructions under May were if they were found on this side of the Channel
,Officers were to release them on bail.

There was a clampdown earlier this year, this caused a wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst those on the legal gravy train.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9076636.html

In spite of the new hard line policies on the French side, Government are saying one thing and doing another.

We send back very few who we catch here, even though we have an absolute right to do so under EU Law.

After Brexit, under International Law, they are ours, we cannot send them back to France.
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06-09-2019, 07:40 PM
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Crossing the Channel.

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

We already have such an agreement in place, been in place for years, May did not return them as she could have done.

Instructions under May were if they were found on this side of the Channel
,Officers were to release them on bail.

There was a clampdown earlier this year, this caused a wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst those on the legal gravy train.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9076636.html

In spite of the new hard line policies on the French side, Government are saying one thing and doing another.

We send back very few who we catch here, even though we have an absolute right to do so under EU Law.

After Brexit, under International Law, they are ours, we cannot send them back to France.
Stop giving them access to our Benefit system.

Starve the SOB's out.

And trust me, I'm VERY serious.

To hell with international law.
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07-09-2019, 11:38 AM
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Crossing the Channel.

The problem is to do with UK law which is hand-tied to EU law. Who can we blame? the numerous human rights charities who in France tell the illegal immigrants what they need to do to try and get into the UK, which is to destroy all identification papers, claim you are from a country where human rights atrocities are occurring, claim you are a homosexual and fear death if being returned. Renouncing your faith is punishable by death in many Islamic countries, which is also a reason given by these illegals.

The UK has paid millions to France in protecting and patrolling it's coastal borders with the UK and France does bugger all but constantly complain that the UK is not doing enough and to spend more money on the problem. The problem is France not actually doing it's job an removing the illegals from the coastal towns because it would mean it becomes a French problem and not a UK one. And you know why France does not stop these people because of a UK law that states people are allowed to seek asylum in the UK if they have a relative already living and working in the UK. This plays into the hands of the human rights charities because they say destroy all documentation about yourself, claim you have a relative in the UK, even if they do not have a relative in the UK because under EU law, the UK have a legal obligation to investigate ALL claims of wanting asylum, hence why many are not quickly deported.
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07-09-2019, 05:44 PM
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Crossing the Channel.

Originally Posted by Dodge ->
The problem is to do with UK law which is hand-tied to EU law. Who can we blame? the numerous human rights charities who in France tell the illegal immigrants what they need to do to try and get into the UK, which is to destroy all identification papers, claim you are from a country where human rights atrocities are occurring, claim you are a homosexual and fear death if being returned. Renouncing your faith is punishable by death in many Islamic countries, which is also a reason given by these illegals.

The UK has paid millions to France in protecting and patrolling it's coastal borders with the UK and France does bugger all but constantly complain that the UK is not doing enough and to spend more money on the problem. The problem is France not actually doing it's job an removing the illegals from the coastal towns because it would mean it becomes a French problem and not a UK one. And you know why France does not stop these people because of a UK law that states people are allowed to seek asylum in the UK if they have a relative already living and working in the UK. This plays into the hands of the human rights charities because they say destroy all documentation about yourself, claim you have a relative in the UK, even if they do not have a relative in the UK because under EU law, the UK have a legal obligation to investigate ALL claims of wanting asylum, hence why many are not quickly deported.
Hi

You are completely wrong.
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07-09-2019, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

You are completely wrong.
I wish he was.
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07-09-2019, 11:46 PM
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Crossing the Channel.

Cant we put some old rusty barges along the south coast
and fill them up with these illegals, and when they are full
tow them over to France and anchor them off the beach
and leave them there? And destroy the boats they came in!

Regards Donkeyman!
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08-09-2019, 12:17 AM
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Crossing the Channel.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Cant we put some old rusty barges along the south coast
and fill them up with these illegals, and when they are full
tow them over to France and anchor them off the beach
and leave them there? And destroy the boats they came in!

Regards Donkeyman!
You can't do that. The demographic of the illegal migrants trying to enter the UK are of Arab and African ethnicity, the majority also have the same religion in common, Islam. Many also claim to be homosexual as being a homosexual in many Arab and African countries is a death sentence.

Therefore, based on all of that, the do-gooders of society will claim that your comment Donkeyman is not only discriminating and racist, but also Islamophobic and homophobic. Yes, they will throw all the 'phobias at you because that is the way society has become.

Anyone who dares to have negative comment or opinion on the matter is thrown the 'phobias at them to shut them up, which we have seen many times over the years.

I remember an interview Nigel Farage, when as UKIP leader, tried to give about the increase of young Muslim men massing at coastal towns in France trying to get to the UK, that he wanted the country to have an honest debate about it but those who were sympathetic to the cause of these young Muslim men immediately made claims in the tabloid press that he was being racist, discriminatory towards them and being Islamophobic and of course, the tabloids kept running with the story to effectively shut him up and to prevent a debate from ever happening, and it worked.
 
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