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Originally Posted by Bread ->
He will end up with a united party. Look at the mess labour are in they cant decide on anything
Can anybody?
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08-09-2019, 02:59 PM
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How about this theory?
The whole tory party, including Boris are in an establishment
plot to f----k brexit up by m.aking supposedly stupid mistakes
at crucial times so that it seems as though it is not their
fault things are going wrong?
Could Boris be a stalking horse?
Seems strange that two leaders in succession have made
such a pigs ear of things??
Just a theory?
What do you think??
Regafds Donkeyman!
Donks I told you before, I think boris is a real patriot who loves his country. He will not make it suffer the consequences of a no deal brexit. So very cleverly he will maneuver the UK into remaining. In history he will be considered as UK's saviour.
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08-09-2019, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Floydy ->
Can anybody?
I hate to say it Floydy, but l told you so!
There is only one party left that has not been corrupted by
the westminster clique yet, you know who it is!
The GE is coming, l think we should give the dark horse
the benefit of the doubt, the others have shown what they
are!
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08-09-2019, 03:16 PM
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Brexit Party then.
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08-09-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Floydy ->
Brexit Party then.
In a GE after a no deal brexit has happened, or in a GE after article 50 was revoked? In both cases the brexit party has become superfluous.
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08-09-2019, 04:36 PM
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Ms Rudd is deliberately trying to cause problems. On the Andrew Marr show today she said one of the reason she resigned is because the government have not engaged in formal Brexit talks with the EU. As a former cabinet minister, she knows the government is not allowed to engage in formal talks of anything with a foreign power unless it has the support/approval of those within the government, of which currently the PM does not have thus why no formal talks have taken place, only 'conversations'.

Now the foreign minister of France has spoken out and said France cannot accept another delay, which echos the sentiments of other countries foreign ministers who have said previously they cannot accept anymore delays. So just why is that our MP's are pushing for delaying Brexit when they know the feelers coming back from the EU is saying they will not accept another delay. Boris is right in what he keeps saying, pushing for delays puts the power right back in the hands of the EU but the majority of MP's are clueless to this fact.
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08-09-2019, 05:42 PM
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Re: Amber Rudd Quits

Originally Posted by Dodge ->
Ms Rudd is deliberately trying to cause problems. On the Andrew Marr show today she said one of the reason she resigned is because the government have not engaged in formal Brexit talks with the EU. As a former cabinet minister, she knows the government is not allowed to engage in formal talks of anything with a foreign power unless it has the support/approval of those within the government, of which currently the PM does not have thus why no formal talks have taken place, only 'conversations'.

Now the foreign minister of France has spoken out and said France cannot accept another delay, which echos the sentiments of other countries foreign ministers who have said previously they cannot accept anymore delays. So just why is that our MP's are pushing for delaying Brexit when they know the feelers coming back from the EU is saying they will not accept another delay. Boris is right in what he keeps saying, pushing for delays puts the power right back in the hands of the EU but the majority of MP's are clueless to this fact.

France sees an opportunity to gain more seats when we leave because our seats will be redistributed... Don't forget, germany has the maximum share of MEP seats, the UK leaving will move frances power closer to Germany especially when germany is going into recession.

Same goes for Poland and others like Spain.
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08-09-2019, 06:14 PM
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Re: Amber Rudd Quits

Originally Posted by Dodge ->
Ms Rudd is deliberately trying to cause problems. On the Andrew Marr show today she said one of the reason she resigned is because the government have not engaged in formal Brexit talks with the EU. As a former cabinet minister, she knows the government is not allowed to engage in formal talks of anything with a foreign power unless it has the support/approval of those within the government, of which currently the PM does not have thus why no formal talks have taken place, only 'conversations'.

Now the foreign minister of France has spoken out and said France cannot accept another delay, which echos the sentiments of other countries foreign ministers who have said previously they cannot accept anymore delays. So just why is that our MP's are pushing for delaying Brexit when they know the feelers coming back from the EU is saying they will not accept another delay. Boris is right in what he keeps saying, pushing for delays puts the power right back in the hands of the EU but the majority of MP's are clueless to this fact.
The formal talks Rudd spoke of were regarding Boris and his cronies negotiating a withdrawal agreement that would set the terms of us leaving and move us into a period of negotiations that would result in a trading agreement with the EU this retaining a degree of stability

Boris has claimed he is actively seeking a deal yet it turns out to be a pack of lies.

It would seem the the new Tory party slogan is “leave means lies”
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08-09-2019, 06:21 PM
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Re: Amber Rudd Quits

Originally Posted by Dodge ->
Ms Rudd is deliberately trying to cause problems. On the Andrew Marr show today she said one of the reason she resigned is because the government have not engaged in formal Brexit talks with the EU. As a former cabinet minister, she knows the government is not allowed to engage in formal talks of anything with a foreign power unless it has the support/approval of those within the government, of which currently the PM does not have thus why no formal talks have taken place, only 'conversations'..
So you are claiming that boris has been lying all along when he said (even during his "election" for pm) he wanted to negotiate a deal with the EU? Boris a liar? !!
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08-09-2019, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Banchory ->
The formal talks Rudd spoke of were regarding Boris and his cronies negotiating a withdrawal agreement that would set the terms of us leaving and move us into a period of negotiations that would result in a trading agreement with the EU this retaining a degree of stability

Boris has claimed he is actively seeking a deal yet it turns out to be a pack of lies.

It would seem the the new Tory party slogan is “leave means lies”
The only lies are from those who triggered article 50 and now deny the people their decision.
 
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