09-09-2019, 10:53 AM
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Cladding again??
Looking at the remains of the block of flats at Sutton insouth London, it begs the question, was cladding involved
in a major fire again?
Nearly all the walls appear to have been devoured by the
flames with only the vertical steel girders left standing?
How are these blocks of flats constucted nowadays?
It seems the walls are just some sort lightweight stuff
that infills the gap between the vertical girders??
What is the material used for this infill?
Obviously it is highly inflammable from the evidence presently
standing in sutton!!
How did our building standards get altered to allow such
materials to be used?
Have we learnt from Grenfel? It seems not?
Regards Donkeyman!
09-09-2019, 11:49 AM
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Re: Cladding again??
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Looking at the remains of the block of flats at Sutton insouth London, it begs the question, was cladding involved
in a major fire again?
Nearly all the walls appear to have been devoured by the
flames with only the vertical steel girders left standing?
How are these blocks of flats constucted nowadays?
It seems the walls are just some sort lightweight stuff
that infills the gap between the vertical girders??
What is the material used for this infill?
Obviously it is highly inflammable from the evidence presently
standing in sutton!!
How did our building standards get altered to allow such
materials to be used?
Have we learnt from Grenfel? It seems not?
Regards Donkeyman!
Timber cladding, looks nice, American style they call it!
But not timber cladding unsightly concrete or breeze block, but cottonwool more like.
09-09-2019, 11:58 AM
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Re: Cladding again??
Before the fire:
https://www.jtp.co.uk/projects/the-hamptons
- A phased development of 645 mixed-tenure homes designed around a 12 ha park to create a new neighbourhood where all buildings have views onto green spaces, the park or internal spaces.
- Reconfiguration of the parkland to secure an additional 5 ha of development land more than the Development Brief.
- Creation of a long, tree-lined avenue approach that opens up to a town square with a landmark community building containing meeting rooms, a gymnasium, a business suite, estate offices and a concierge.
- Five character areas taking cues from New England, UK and Scandinavian timber boarded architecture for a veranda living culture.
- A nature reserve, ecological wetland habitats, recreational paths and spaces including a sculpture trail with art by Lorna Green.
- Creation of rural character within 20 minutes of central London to attract people to a previously bleak area.
- 14% higher sales values than surrounding areas.
Yer council estate it ain't .....
09-09-2019, 02:16 PM
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Re: Cladding again??
Originally Posted by realspeed
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It was Worcester Park not Sutton a different town. I was born and lived in Sutton before I got married. Then bought our second house in North Cheam that is in between these towns.
Know the area well as my freind still lives in North Cheam
and my brother lived in sutton untill recently!
When l stated Sutton it was based on the report l saw on
TV, sorry! The erea has changed a lot over the years!
Regards Donkeyman
09-09-2019, 02:34 PM
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Re: Cladding again??
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Interesting Realspeed! I was born in mitcham and l alsoKnow the area well as my freind still lives in North Cheam
and my brother lived in sutton untill recently!
When l stated Sutton it was based on the report l saw on
TV, sorry! The erea has changed a lot over the years!
Regards Donkeyman
Yep, BBC Breakfast were calling it Sutton.
09-09-2019, 02:36 PM
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Re: Cladding again??
Originally Posted by d00d
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It seems this structure was built a few years before the Grenfell fire.Timber cladding, looks nice, American style they call it!
But not timber cladding unsightly concrete or breeze block, but cottonwool more like.
are not to bad either?
But l question whether multi story, assuming 4 floors can be called multi storey, should be built using this method?
What l could'nt see was if the floors between levels were
concrete? I could not see any floors at all so l assume
they were timber? allthat was left in most part was the
vertical l assume, steel girders! so timber cladding plus
polystyrene insulation etc does not seem to be the best way
to build above 2 floors! Looks like the plastic age has big
disadvantages and questions need to be asked?
Regards Donkeyman!
09-09-2019, 02:44 PM
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Re: Cladding again??
Originally Posted by Omah
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Before the fire:https://www.jtp.co.uk/projects/the-hamptons
- A phased development of 645 mixed-tenure homes designed around a 12 ha park to create a new neighbourhood where all buildings have views onto green spaces, the park or internal spaces.
- Reconfiguration of the parkland to secure an additional 5 ha of development land more than the Development Brief.
- Creation of a long, tree-lined avenue approach that opens up to a town square with a landmark community building containing meeting rooms, a gymnasium, a business suite, estate offices and a concierge.
- Five character areas taking cues from New England, UK and Scandinavian timber boarded architecture for a veranda living culture.
- A nature reserve, ecological wetland habitats, recreational paths and spaces including a sculpture trail with art by Lorna Green.
- Creation of rural character within 20 minutes of central London to attract people to a previously bleak area.
- 14% higher sales values than surrounding areas.
Yer council estate it ain't .....
since l used to roam about there!
I could name most of the pubs around there! But l suppose
they are all steakhouses now?
Regards Donkeyman!
09-09-2019, 02:49 PM
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Re: Cladding again??
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Yes it looks nice as a single dwelling dOod, and the flatsare not to bad either?
But l question whether multi story, assuming 4 floors can be called multi storey, should be built using this method?
What l could'nt see was if the floors between levels were
concrete? I could not see any floors at all so l assume
they were timber? allthat was left in most part was the
vertical l assume, steel girders! so timber cladding plus
polystyrene insulation etc does not seem to be the best way
to build above 2 floors! Looks like the plastic age has big
disadvantages and questions need to be asked?
Regards Donkeyman!
09-09-2019, 02:58 PM
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Re: Cladding again??
Originally Posted by Omah
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I think you're making a lot of assumptions from photographs .....
of the flats AFTER the fire!
Ha ha ha.
Regards Donkeyman!
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