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26-04-2014, 10:22 AM
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Of course he could be referring to the next season of the Oscars.

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26-04-2014, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
The Americans want another attempt at 'ruling the world', since they failed last time during the 'cold war' they want to drag the rest of 'western' europe into yet another war against Russia. The Americans have an intense dislike for and abhorrence of anything Russian and continue to look for 'reds under the bed'.
Seems more like the EU want to rule than the Americans at the moment. It wasn't them who stirred up this hornets nest.
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26-04-2014, 02:02 PM
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I think a slow return to cold war conditions will ensue, doubt USA will chance their arm against Russia as they could fight back. And look how less technology based countries have fared against them, seems there is conflict everywhere at the moment.
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26-04-2014, 02:46 PM
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its my thinking the Russians have stirred this up,they,ve made threats to Ukraine ,they have took Crimea without much protest from the rest of the leading countries ,hard Sanctions should have been put in place straight away not a bit at a time ,If Russia takes Ukraine then where will it stop ..
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26-04-2014, 03:04 PM
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Looking at it from the Russians point of view, if the Ukraine aligns itself with the west that's a buffer country lost to them. It's in their interest to keep them on the Russian side.
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26-04-2014, 03:13 PM
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Looking at it from the Russians point of view, if the Ukraine aligns itself with the west that's a buffer country lost to them. It's in their interest to keep them on the Russian side.
Exactly so why did the EU etc not understand that and leave well alone ?
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26-04-2014, 03:20 PM
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At the present moment Germany is importing 40% of all it's oil and gas supplies from Russia piped through the Ukraine and is now urgently seeking alternative sources. Many other European countries are similarly situated. If Europe were to stop buying Russian oil Putin would not last week .

http://www.dw.de/germanys-russian-en...mma/a-17529685
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27-04-2014, 08:21 AM
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Re: "America is Ready to Act" said Obama.

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon ->
At the present moment Germany is importing 40% of all it's oil and gas supplies from Russia piped through the Ukraine and is now urgently seeking alternative sources. Many other European countries are similarly situated. If Europe were to stop buying Russian oil Putin would not last week .

http://www.dw.de/germanys-russian-en...mma/a-17529685

Absolute rubbish!!! The 'West' needs Russia to continue supplying natural gas through the pipe-line, but the opposite is not true, Russia doesn't need the west, she could get all her raw materials from her own resources and establish trade deals with China and south-east asia.
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27-04-2014, 08:45 AM
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Re: "America is Ready to Act" said Obama.

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Absolute rubbish!!! The 'West' needs Russia to continue supplying natural gas through the pipe-line, but the opposite is not true, Russia doesn't need the west, she could get all her raw materials from her own resources and establish trade deals with China and south-east asia.
Russia needs the revenue, it survives on it. America is now about to export fracked shale gas at prices below Russia's from a brand new facility on the Gulf of Mexico. When completed this one plant will have a capacity of 20 million tonnes per year, and for refrigerated and compressed gas that is a hell of a lot.

http://www.pennenergy.com/articles/p...on-europe.html

At the end of WWII when Russia annexed and Communised large swathes of Europe the west had a deep suspicion of them . However, since the end of the cold war, trust had been slowly returning and confidence that now they could be relied on as a stable trading partner and energy supplier, 30 years of repatriation that "Action Man" blew away in a month.

Countries like Germany are not going to do anything drastic to jeopardise their current energy supply situation but this reality check will be causing a lot a diversification plans to be actioned below the parapet.
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28-04-2014, 08:47 AM
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Doesn't it send a chill down your spine. Let's hope reason prevails.
Cannot america ever mind it's own business!!??
 
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