25-02-2017, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Twink55
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And you really think that groups of a dozen or more, who work shifts, all choose to gather, in places like sheltered car parks, when they have done a nights work and need sleep? Not all youngsters are hard working people, some have been brought up in families where work is a no go area!
25-02-2017, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by summer
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I'm not into bashing our young people as lazy, does anyone know a young person who doesn't work or refuses to work? Where are they? I certainly don't know any. When I voted out, immigration was a consideration, we need to control our borders but that doesn't mean close them.
Yes, we will still need some foreign workers and we we should not consider that a bad thing what we should be planning is how to control who we want and ensuring our benefits system is beneficial to people here who are entitled not people who come here for handouts.
So while our young people might do them for a Summer to earn some money, we don't have enough young willing people here to keep farms, hotels and factories going. There may be some, but not enough to keep our economy moving.
There are lots of jobs that aren't glamorous enough in our aspiring age of Kardasian easy money.
25-02-2017, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962
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But my point was we have no idea why they were there.
25-02-2017, 05:27 PM
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My lad's doing an apprenticeship in game design....he gets a massive £100 p/w for 38 hours....he also spends 2 hrs a day travelling by train and bus.Never once has he complained.
None of his mate's are workshy.
On the flipside a pals son wont work and hangs around with likeminded yoofs.
hey ho.
25-02-2017, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Twink55
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Well I trust my judgement on situations like that and find that I am frequently right. My niece lives on a council estate, where some of these boys live and is afraid to walk alone to her brothers, about 300 yards away. Not all young people are nice and the bad ones often don't work, live off benefits and cause trouble!
If they were made to work for their benefits money, they'd be too tired to roam the streets on an evening making life worse for the rest of us.
There's the answer. Will it ever happen?
25-02-2017, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tpin
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My lad's doing an apprenticeship in game design....he gets a massive £100 p/w for 38 hours....he also spends 2 hrs a day travelling by train and bus. Never once has he complained.
None of his mate's are workshy.
On the flipside a pals son wont work and hangs around with likeminded yoofs.
hey ho.
If we helped them find a job( any job), or made them work for their benefits they would soon get off their backsides to find a job they liked.
25-02-2017, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by twink55
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that is my point tpin, some youths will work, and will be on the way to becoming an independent person. Some won't, and they will be a constant drain on the benefits system.If we helped them find a job( any job), or made them work for their benefits they would soon get off their backsides to find a job they liked.
25-02-2017, 06:57 PM
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Well maybe I live in a high employed area but truly I don't see them. I think whatever we do there will always be an underclass of people that live on benefits as a lifestyle choice. That's not peculiar solely to the UK many countries have a similar problem.Its unfair though to label all our young people as lazy, its not the case although I expect many struggle to find their place in the world just as we did when we were young.
25-02-2017, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by summer
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Well maybe I live in a high employed area but truly I don't see them. I think whatever we do there will always be an underclass of people that live on benefits as a lifestyle choice. That's not peculiar solely to the UK many countries have a similar problem. Its unfair though to label all our young people as lazy, its not the case although I expect many struggle to find their place in the world just as we did when we were young.
Not all young people are lazy, but some are, and none of them spend Mon to Fri searching for work. That is why I believe that they should do work to gain their benefits, so they don't come to believe that their benefits are just spends.provided by the government, whilst mum and dad will provide their food and accommodation.
25-02-2017, 07:29 PM
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I did all sorts twink before I settled for a job I thought was me, I was lucky though in that there were lots of jobs available where I lived and I wasn't picky. I wish I had my time to come again though I might make different life choices
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