Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by
Aerolor
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I believe it is down to Brexit. Even those who want Brexit are at odds at about how it should be managed and cannot agree. They themselves are divided.
No. They are not divided on the issue of Leaving which is all that matters. They might prefer to leave with a decent Withdrawal Agreement rather than No Deal but since a decent agreement is not forthcoming then No Deal it will have to be. So long as we actually Leave, that's all that BrExiteers really care about.
Originally Posted by
Aerolor
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There was not a large enough majority to be decisive and meaningful and as a result the country is now split down the middle. One percent lead is not decisive enough IMO
This is utter nonsense. The referendum saw the largest turnout in history. A 72 per cent turnout, in which 17,410,742 people voted Leave.
It was the single biggest vote in British history for anything.
The result was significant. In UK political votes a winning margin of 1 million votes is extremely significant.
You are simply clutching at straws lost in your inability to accept a democratic decision. In truth if the result had been 75 Leave 25 Remain you and the other Remainers would still be complaining and trying to obstruct the majority result.
Originally Posted by
Aerolor
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particularly when the consequences of a Brexit were not made clear (because nobody actually thought it through or knew).
This is also a load of hogwash on 2 counts.
Count 1, a great many Leavers DID KNOW exactly what BrExit meant and why they were voting to Leave It was NOT about immigration, it was about the realisation of where the EU was heading, what it had become and the desire to have no further part of it.
Count 2, more importantly is that EVERY SINGLE ELECTION we ever have, involves the masses being duped by politicians and vast media campaigns designed to deliberately motivate and sway people to vote a certain way.
In the last election Corbyn shamelessly duped all the young voters by making them false promises of wiping their student debts and giving them free tuition fees.
Had Corbyn won that election are you suggesting that we could have overturned the election result based on the fact that people didn't have accurate or truthful information? Patently not.
The referendum was no different. Both the Leave and Remain campaigns used exaggerations and misleads to their own ends. It will always be so. It behoves every voter to properly educate themselves so they are not duped by politicians. That is the process in this country, like it or not.
So again, there are no excuses to be had here. The referendum was fair, it saw the largest turnout in the history of the country and the majority voted Leave. You should take a look at your motives and position in regards to the democratic process because if you are unable to support it you are in the wrong country.
Originally Posted by
Aerolor
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As for democracy, if somebody does not agree with something they have a democratic right to object.
Yep they do and the vote is the method by which they make that objection. The vote is fair, available to all and we have to respect the majority decision whether we like it or not.
Democracy itself is more important than any single vote.