03-07-2021, 10:51 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by pauline3
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TAT..you have now lost me...theory was never my strong point,
03-07-2021, 10:53 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by Ullabi
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Pauline this was directed against Coop in Sweden. I don’t think you need to worry about money you have in a Coop account in the UK.
The cyber attack only affected the cash register system which meant that no purchases could be tilled either at the manual tills or self scanning.
Thanks for explaining.
03-07-2021, 10:56 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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It's a whole lot cheaper to send data overseas to be processed than do it here. Same with software support and development. People working for a few quid a day don't turn their noses up to what to them is a huge sum cash in hand to "leak" what they're doing to an interested outside party. It also happens though to a much lesser extent in bank branches especially when "New British" are involved. There was a case reported in the MSM last year (I think it was).
Starting to make sense to me, dishonesty seems to be rife in this world.
I remember my son saying to me a few times, if you were starving,you don’t know what road you would take.
Have never starved in my life, been very poor...never starved though.
03-07-2021, 10:59 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by pauline3
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They knocked out the tills...so no money stolen.?But obviously they will now be losing money?
Regarding money, there is a Co-operative bank. Now consider the following facts.
1. Nowadays, just about any serious software application uses a database for persistent memory on disk. A single database can be accessed by an organisation's applications sitting on various platforms and in various environments - supermarket branches, websites, mobile devices, vehicles, desktop computers, peer-to-peer networks, company intranets, fridges, company telephone systems, and so on ... you could probably think up a few yourself.
2. Hackers can also lock up an organisation's systems, and then demand 'ransoms' in return for digital keys which can unlock these systems. Even government systems are not immune.
3. The software development industry is rife with amateurs. There are far too many self-taught 'hackers' (not necessarily malicious) and not enough computer science graduates. Hence many systems are vulnerable.
03-07-2021, 11:02 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by UkGameCoder
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I only have to go down to my local Co-op to see how terrible they are at building systems. I wish the organisation would just collapse so that someone competent could come in and do the job properly.Regarding money, there is a Co-operative bank. Now consider the following facts.
1. Nowadays, just about any serious software application uses a database for persistent memory on disk. A single database can be accessed by an organisation's applications sitting on various platforms and in various environments - supermarket branches, websites, mobile devices, vehicles, desktop computers, peer-to-peer networks, company intranets, fridges, company telephone systems, and so on ... you could probably think up a few yourself.
2. Hackers can also lock up an organisation's systems, and then demand 'ransoms' in return for digital keys which can unlock these systems. Even government systems are not immune.
3. The software development industry is rife with amateurs. There are far too many self-taught 'hackers' (not necessarily malicious) and not enough computer science graduates. Hence many systems are vulnerable.
Thanks for posting that UGC...I will get my son to decode it back to me in simple terms...
I feel somewhat “ thick”...reading that...no doubt your specialised subject....
I didn’t even know what a platform was.
I thought you stood on it....
03-07-2021, 11:02 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by pauline3
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I often wonder if it was from inside information..that these hackers get their information from.
03-07-2021, 11:10 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by pauline3
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I didn’t even know what a platform was.I thought you stood on it....
Just take it as a posh way of saying that an organisation's computers can all access a single source of data, and share their own data with each other!
03-07-2021, 11:11 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by caricature
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My theory is and as always been that the hackers are the ones that will sell you software to prevent it, they know how to attack and prevent.
That's what I wonder too, Caricature.
03-07-2021, 11:14 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by UkGameCoder
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LOL! Sorry, mate - my fault. I should have explained more clearly! I think I know which part you're referring to.Just take it as a posh way of saying that an organisation's computers can all access a single source of data, and share their own data with each other!
03-07-2021, 11:31 AM
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Re: A vulnerable society
Originally Posted by pauline3
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I often wonder if it was from inside information..that these hackers get their information from.
There are all kinds of ways to penetrate software systems.
One of the most versatile and insidious enables the programmer to enter computer language code into a form meant for conveying input to the program, and have the victim's programs execute it! This is one of the most frightening in my opinion.
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