02-10-2018, 11:36 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by JBR
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If you read back in this forum (it may have been a different thread) I'm sure this was mentioned earlier and that, despite the public vote being to leave the EEC, the government didn't like it - so we stayed!That's our version of 'democracy', a bit like some tin pot African countries!
02-10-2018, 11:59 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Hurrah for wikipedia. In 1975 some 17 million brits were for staying in the EEC, and 8 million wanted to leave. A two to one outcome in favour for staying in. (65 % actually voted).
My memory must be letting me down, as I thought I'd read something to the contrary elsewhere on this forum. It must have been something other than that referendum.
Nevertheless, it is important to realise that the 1975 referendum was regarding membership of the EEC, and that organisation was a different kettle of fish to what we have now: the EU.
As I have said before, many times, I personally would be very happy to be a member of the EEC, or another organisation of the same type - a free-trade organisation.
I am certainly not happy to be a member of the EU - a political dictatorship in which the governing body (the one that makes all the laws and regulations), the Commission, is composed of 28 members of which we Brits elect but one. Is that fair when we are the second highest financial contributor to the coffers?
I'd much prefer to be governed by a body of 650 of which we elect all of them!
03-10-2018, 10:42 AM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by JBR
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My apologies; I stand corrected.My memory must be letting me down, as I thought I'd read something to the contrary elsewhere on this forum. It must have been something other than that referendum.
Nevertheless, it is important to realise that the 1975 referendum was regarding membership of the EEC, and that organisation was a different kettle of fish to what we have now: the EU.
As I have said before, many times, I personally would be very happy to be a member of the EEC, or another organisation of the same type - a free-trade organisation.
I am certainly not happy to be a member of the EU - a political dictatorship in which the governing body (the one that makes all the laws and regulations), the Commission, is composed of 28 members of which we Brits elect but one. Is that fair when we are the second highest financial contributor to the coffers?
I'd much prefer to be governed by a body of 650 of which we elect all of them!
This is how it works and not how your nonsense in bold suggests.
03-10-2018, 11:53 AM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by itsme
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https://fullfact.org/europe/how-eu-works-who-runs-eu/This is how it works and not how your nonsense in bold suggests.
Nope, that is how it is supposed to work.
The practice is very different, Verhofstadt and Juncker run it according to their own agendas.
There is little practical oversight, which explains why Luxembourg gets away with murder when it comes to tax evasion.
03-10-2018, 11:55 AM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiNope, that is how it is supposed to work.
The practice is very different, Verhofstadt and Juncker run it according to their own agendas.
There is little practical oversight, which explains why Luxembourg gets away with murder when it comes to tax evasion.
03-10-2018, 06:00 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiNope, that is how it is supposed to work.
The practice is very different, Verhofstadt and Juncker run it according to their own agendas.
There is little practical oversight, which explains why Luxembourg gets away with murder when it comes to tax evasion.
03-10-2018, 06:07 PM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by itsme
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Yep, that's how it works, to think otherwise and to suggest that just 2 people run it, is totally ridiculous.
Not ridiculous at all, the power they wield is phenomenal.
No different to Mandleson, who ran Blair.
06-10-2018, 09:49 AM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by itsme
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Yep, that's how it works, to think otherwise and to suggest that just 2 people run it, is totally ridiculous.
Really?
Perhaps you should read this to understand how it really works.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu...rce=reddit.com
You are very quick to attack others.
06-10-2018, 11:47 AM
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Re: Non EU countries
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiReally?
Perhaps you should read this to understand how it really works.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu...rce=reddit.com
You are very quick to attack others.
The Frogs must be very pleased with themselves right now.
I can't wait!
After we have left and the small countries are too afraid to oppose the Franco-German alliance, the German character will prevail and France, too, will come under the jackboot.
They won't be so proud of themselves then.
For God's sake, don't come running to us for help when it happens!
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