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09-12-2019, 11:50 PM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

Originally Posted by Ciderman ->
White Island has been a popular destination for tourists and locals for over 30 years. It is a continually active volcano the warning levels go up and down frequently . There was , despite a rise of one level little change to warrant closing the tours. The chances of being caught in an eruption were probably about the same as being struck by lightening. I would happily take that chance. Two of the people killed were tour operators.
Back in the 1930's there was a sulphur mining business set up but a sudden eruption killed 10 workers whose bodies were never found.

Don't be so sensible Ciderman.
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10-12-2019, 01:46 AM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

Being privately owned, the government has no jurisdiction over it. It is fool hardy to visit the island, regardless. Tourists have to sign a waiver that they are well aware of the risks, however the tour operator and/or the owner must take full responsibilty.
To have allowed the tourists to go into the crater is beyond belief.
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10-12-2019, 03:37 AM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

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Mad, given the warnings, that the tours were allowed to go on. Some people only see money.
Originally Posted by Silver Tabby ->
How awful - but - why, oh, why were they still allowed to go there after warnings of an imminent eruption? Madness.
Originally Posted by Isa49 ->
Being privately owned, the government has no jurisdiction over it. It is fool hardy to visit the island, regardless. Tourists have to sign a waiver that they are well aware of the risks, however the tour operator and/or the owner must take full responsibilty.
To have allowed the tourists to go into the crater is beyond belief.

I know bugger all about volcanoes but this man does and he explains why there were no warnings of the eruption and why it was a surprise even to expert volcanologists.

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10-12-2019, 07:25 AM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

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Don't be so sensible Ciderman.
Whyever not? This is a discussion forum, not a race to see who can make the most scathing comments about others!
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10-12-2019, 07:42 AM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
I would never go and visit an active volcano .
( even a dormant one is suspicious ) I don’t care how rare it is you won’t catch me there .


There seems to be some confusion over whether or not warnings were issued. Does anyone know for sure?
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10-12-2019, 07:53 AM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

Ah - just seen Bruce's excellent video - that explains it perfectly.
Thank you Bruce.
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10-12-2019, 08:03 AM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

I just read there is to be a criminal investigation....so there must be some concern that people were knowingly put in danger
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10-12-2019, 08:54 AM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

I think the "criminal investigation" might be a bit misleading. Whenever deaths are involved in a system controlled by a business the investigation is simply to ensure that there is no culpable action necessary.
The warning levels go up and down a lot and were not considered dangerous as they were in the 1 to 2 levels of a 5 level scale and happened many times over the past decades.
Sad though the event is, it is probably statistically safer visiting that volcano over the last 30 years.than riding a motorbike.
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

Thanks for the video Bruce very informative, that bloke knows his stuff....
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10-12-2019, 03:06 PM
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Re: New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

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I just read there is to be a criminal investigation....so there must be some concern that people were knowingly put in danger


Yes Summer, I heard something on the lunchtime news about this. They were saying there is to be an investigation as to why anyone was allowed on there.
 
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