14-09-2019, 04:20 PM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Banchory
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Agreed but everyone is saying that the current uncertainty is affecting our economy so if we were not leaving the Uzk economy would be doing even better
Since we voted to leave it you mean ?
14-09-2019, 04:35 PM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Solasch
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The only way to find out is to compare the UK economy in recent years (as a member) with before 1973, when you became a member. As you recall the UK in those days was called the sick man of europe. Need I elaborate?
because of the actions of the unions!
If l remember correctly, nas a machinetool fitter l was earning
about £48 pw! It doesnt sound much now but a decent
detached house in the midlands cost £5000- £7000!
and COL in proportion. So much better off then?
Now it seems young people are staying with their parents
again as was the case just after the war! Since joining eu
Uk has stagnated!!
Regards Donkeyman!
14-09-2019, 04:49 PM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Yes we were Solly, but not because the people were poor, butbecause of the actions of the unions!
If l remember correctly, nas a machinetool fitter l was earning
about £48 pw! It doesnt sound much now but a decent
detached house in the midlands cost £5000- £7000!
and COL in proportion. So much better off then?
Now it seems young people are staying with their parents
again as was the case just after the war! Since joining eu
Uk has stagnated!!
Regards Donkeyman!
14-09-2019, 07:48 PM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Bread
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Since we voted to leave it you mean ?
14-09-2019, 10:20 PM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Banchory
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Yes but we are still a member of the EU therefore the success of the economy can is being achieved under the framework of the E.U. regulatory envelope but could have been even better as it was impacted by the uncertainty around leaving the EU, slowing growth and investment
No.
If that were the case you would have 27 countries with the same economic growth.
You should at which countries trade with each other and which readers most with the rest if the world.
The EU has nothing to do with it.
14-09-2019, 10:50 PM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Sorry donks, but the same trends are everywhere, also outside the EU. As bruce has pointed out, not everything is related to brexit. It may seem that way, because all the attention brexit gets.
you do it on purpose??
I dont blame anything on brexit!
I blame it on joining the eu at all!!
Regards Donkeyman!
14-09-2019, 11:30 PM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Bread
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No.If that were the case you would have 27 countries with the same economic growth.
You should at which countries trade with each other and which readers most with the rest if the world.
The EU has nothing to do with it.
All 28 countries that a members of the EU trade with each other and the rest of the world under the umbrella of EU regulations
However, the 28 countries are not all clones and have different industries and their own internal regulations and capabilities.
We are currently trading under EU regulations and the only negative is the uncertainty caused by Brexit
Germany is doing less well than the UK due to a greater reliance on the automotive industry and the downturn in sales of diesel cars and their general lack of development of alternatives powered vehicles
The UK is heavily reliant on services which have unrestricted access into the EU whilst we are still a member.
Most prognosis’s indicate that when we leave the EU out economy will decline, the extent being determined by what type of Brexit terms we leave under
The only winners if we leave on 31 October will be the super rich mates of Johnson & Farage who have already shorted the pound hence Johnson’s desperation to leave without a deal even if it means breaking the law.
15-09-2019, 01:03 AM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Banchory
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What are you on about?All 28 countries that a members of the EU trade with each other and the rest of the world under the umbrella of EU regulations
However, the 28 countries are not all clones and have different industries and their own internal regulations and capabilities.
We are currently trading under EU regulations and the only negative is the uncertainty caused by Brexit
Germany is doing less well than the UK due to a greater reliance on the automotive industry and the downturn in sales of diesel cars and their general lack of development of alternatives powered vehicles
The UK is heavily reliant on services which have unrestricted access into the EU whilst we are still a member.
Most prognosis’s indicate that when we leave the EU out economy will decline, the extent being determined by what type of Brexit terms we leave under
The only winners if we leave on 31 October will be the super rich mates of Johnson & Farage who have already shorted the pound hence Johnson’s desperation to leave without a deal even if it means breaking the law.
The UK trades more with countries outside the EU. We dont need the EU we are the least integrated in the single market.
Your talking out of your arse.
15-09-2019, 03:31 AM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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My assertion was that uks wages stagnated and even wentbackwards after joining eu Solly! I believe the minimum
wage was a means to keep wages down not up?? so l
discount from my arguments!!!
Regards Donkeyman!
In the mid 60s I went to Australia for the first time and discovered that everybody was better off (that is not to say that Australia wasn't a bit like travelling back in time in those days). 90% of the population either owned their own home or were buying their own home, everybody had a phone line compared to the 5 - 10% planning fill in the UK and most people had at least one new(ish) car.
It was these events that woke me up to the idea that in Britain we had been lied to about our prosperity and place in the world. This was reinforced by events in the late 60s and early 70s when I was back working in the UK for a few years.
In the late 80s I returned to the UK after over a decade away and could not believe the drabness, filth and poverty I saw on what was a brief visit of a couple of months. I couldn't leave quick enough frankly. (That was under Thatcher's reign)
It is true to say that Britain is a wealthy country but that wealth is not shared by the majority of the population and I don't think that has changed that much to this day. You only have to look at the figures for housing and living conditions to see this is still true.
I have said this before - I don't blame or criticise the British people but they have been misled, lied to, mistreated and badly governed by upper class donkeys at least since the Second World War.
15-09-2019, 06:36 AM
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Re: Meanwhile in the Eurozone ...
Originally Posted by Bread
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The UK trades more with countries outside the EU. We dont need the EU we are the least integrated in the single market.Your talking out of your arse.
That we have never fully engaged with Europe whilst still deriving significant benefits just supports the folly of leaving the single market in pursuit of the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow which As Liam Fox discovered, doesn’t exist
You keep spouting the same old crap from Brexit Central and the various alt right sites you frequent but your words betray you and it’s clear that you don’t really know what you are talking about
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