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So it doesn't get lost in the Islamophobe babblings in this thread let's remember the leadership given by the NZ Prime Minister:

"It is clear she is a lioness and that to call so many of our current leaders donkeys is a disservice to hardworking donkeys the world over.

She has communicated quickly and immediately, giving New Zealanders as much information as she could. She has given them a language in which to talk about the unspeakable, to vocalise the shock and sadness. “They are us,” she said simply of the dead and wounded. The “othering” of Muslims as separate, as somehow different, as not quite belonging, was felled in one swoop. “They are us.” New Zealand had been chosen because it was safe, because it was no place for hatred or racism. “Because we represent diversity, kindness, compassion, home for those who share our values. Refuge for those who need it.”

These values would not be shaken by the murders. To the killer, she said with absolute clarity: “You may have chosen us – we utterly reject and condemn you.”"


Remember that...

"we utterly reject and condemn you"
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I was very impressed with her Bruce, as I've already mentioned. But I don't understand why she was wearing a Hijab today. As far as I am aware she is not Muslim.
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Originally Posted by Puddle Duck ->
I think that figure has gone up to 120 now, Galty.

There are on average 11 Christians from many different countries killed every day worldwide , from North Korea, Afghanistan, India to Somalia and Congo, for their faith, according to the latest..

900,000 over the last 10 years. Including Missionaries, Priests et al.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/o...rs-report.html
I think that the couple of posters on this site accusing members of Islamophobia should read your link.
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19-03-2019, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
I was very impressed with her Bruce, as I've already mentioned. But I don't understand why she was wearing a Hijab today. As far as I am aware she is not Muslim.
It's called 'respect'
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I have been living in New Zealand for a while now, and up until now Jacinda Ardern had been a bit of a laughing stock, for one her party (Labour) didn't win the last election (National got more seats) so got lucky. They are in a minority government with the greens and NZ first.

For your information Jacinda has spent her whole career (if you call it that) in politics, first as a researcher, president of the International socialist youth! and political adviser to Tony Blair (great recommendation). She has never had a paid job outside politics.
She is great at grand standing and sound bites but when it comes serious politics she has failed.
The next NZ general election is next year and she was low in the polls.....The tragedy in Christchurch is just what she needed and boy is she playing the role with gusto-covering her head, she is the master of false emotion and grieving, if she can soak this for all it's worth then she will be in next time..
Remember she had Tony Blair as a tutor....she will go places!! IMO
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I think AJ, that you are well wide of the mark. Adern is the most preferred PM by a large margin in the polls of the last year. I think possibly if you were here 125 years ago you would have been against giving women the vote.
The MMP system that we use is much more fair to voters than the FPP system that you use , (together with a house of unelected toffs with lots of money and little compassion).
The wearing of the Hijab was simply a mark of respect. No she is not a Muslim but like most of us, respects the beliefs of others.
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Originally Posted by Puddle Duck ->
I think that figure has gone up to 120 now, Galty.

There are on average 11 Christians from many different countries killed every day worldwide , from North Korea, Afghanistan, India to Somalia and Congo, for their faith, according to the latest..

900,000 over the last 10 years. Including Missionaries, Priests et al.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/o...rs-report.html
Christians have been being eradicated around the world for a while now, what interests me as I do try to keep up with what is going on in these places is it's often Muslims protecting them, they in turn are attacked of course and so it goes on.
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So it doesn't get lost in the Islamophobe babblings in this thread let's remember the leadership given by the NZ Prime Minister:

"It is clear she is a lioness and that to call so many of our current leaders donkeys is a disservice to hardworking donkeys the world over.

She has communicated quickly and immediately, giving New Zealanders as much information as she could. She has given them a language in which to talk about the unspeakable, to vocalise the shock and sadness. “They are us,” she said simply of the dead and wounded. The “othering” of Muslims as separate, as somehow different, as not quite belonging, was felled in one swoop. “They are us.” New Zealand had been chosen because it was safe, because it was no place for hatred or racism. “Because we represent diversity, kindness, compassion, home for those who share our values. Refuge for those who need it.”

These values would not be shaken by the murders. To the killer, she said with absolute clarity: “You may have chosen us – we utterly reject and condemn you.”"


Remember that...

"we utterly reject and condemn you"
I was very impressed with her leadership and her obvious feelings she wasn't afraid to show how it affected her. Very humane human being I thought. Wish we had her over here or one like her.
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19-03-2019, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
I was very impressed with her Bruce, as I've already mentioned. But I don't understand why she was wearing a Hijab today. As far as I am aware she is not Muslim.
Originally Posted by Bruce ->
It's called 'respect'
Sounds silly to me. If it had happened in a circus would she have worn a clown suit?
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19-03-2019, 11:22 AM
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Sounds silly to me. If it had happened in a circus would she have worn a clown suit?
I have no idea what you are talking about ? It was her facial expression and words I was talking about. So she covered her head in respect I would imagine she was going on or coming out of the mosque at that point and like many places a head covering is worn, I have even been places I have to take my shoes off and they aren't Muslim they were Sikhs and Hindus. Would you refuse to pay respect in these ways ?
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it was not necessary for her to wear a hijab to show respect.
 
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