02-04-2019, 01:12 PM
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Re: Here Come the Vetoes on UK Extension ?
HiJust for clarity.
Leaving with No Deal does not mean that there will be any rollover of our Trade Deals or any Transition.
We are out, Tariffs in place and we have to abide by WTO Rules.
I simply cannot see the EU backing down, we will be out, Tariffs and Quotas on everything.
There will be no managed transition, that is a fantasy, we leave in 10 days time.
I think our Politicians, the whole lot of them, are a bunch of idiots, we deserve better.
They will not suffer one jot or iota, they keep their jobs and their Pensions.
I will never forgive them if we leave with no deal.
The only thing worse is not leaving, we voted leave, we have to.
Anything else is the end of Democracy.
02-04-2019, 01:30 PM
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Re: Here Come the Vetoes on UK Extension ?
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiJust for clarity.
Leaving with No Deal does not mean that there will be any rollover of our Trade Deals or any Transition.
We are out, Tariffs in place and we have to abide by WTO Rules.
I simply cannot see the EU backing down, we will be out, Tariffs and Quotas on everything.
There will be no managed transition, that is a fantasy, we leave in 10 days time.
I think our Politicians, the whole lot of them, are a bunch of idiots, we deserve better.
They will not suffer one jot or iota, they keep their jobs and their Pensions.
I will never forgive them if we leave with no deal.
The only thing worse is not leaving, we voted leave, we have to.
Anything else is the end of Democracy.
Barnier said he was sure that in the event of a no-deal “a few months after I’m sure UK will ask EU to begin negotiations” on trade but that “in that case the withdrawal agreement we put on the table at the beginning of this negotiation will be still here”. The negotiator said the UK would still have to settle the issues of citizens rights, Ireland, and the divorce bill included in the controversial treaty.
He wouldn't, couldn't, say that if the EU needs the UK harder than the UK needs the EU. Whoever started that soundbyte?
02-04-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Leaving without a deal. No transition. And then trying to trade with the EU?Barnier said he was sure that in the event of a no-deal “a few months after I’m sure UK will ask EU to begin negotiations” on trade but that “in that case the withdrawal agreement we put on the table at the beginning of this negotiation will be still here”. The negotiator said the UK would still have to settle the issues of citizens rights, Ireland, and the divorce bill included in the controversial treaty.
He wouldn't, couldn't, say that if the EU needs the UK harder than the UK needs the EU. Whoever started that soundbyte?
If it goes well, no need for the EU.
If it goes badly, we will need them.
The point I am making is that it is not in our control at all.
It will be decided by the International Money Markets.
They are not nice people, they are only interested in profit.
02-04-2019, 02:13 PM
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Re: Here Come the Vetoes on UK Extension ?
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiIf it goes well, no need for the EU.
If it goes badly, we will need them.
The point I am making is that it is not in our control at all.
03-04-2019, 01:01 PM
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Re: Here Come the Vetoes on UK Extension ?
Originally Posted by Bread
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Once we leave the EU, the EU Parliament seats currently held by the UK (73) will be changed.These changes are ...
The total number of EU seats (751) will reduce to 705 (Parliament is shrinking !)
46 seats will be held in "reserve" for future EU expansion (make of that what you will)
27 redistributed to those member states currently under-represented.
France will get +5
Spain will get +5
Italy +3
... etc
So should the UK ask for a long extension expect vetoes galore.
.. especially France, who will be catching up with Germany (who have the maximum 96) and end up on 79 (up from 74).
Here is the table of beneficiaries... it's no wonder Macron wants us out.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/resour...23RES92302.pdf
The flip side is that if we did stay in the EU then the seats allocated to us would be the remaining "reserve" seats, meaning the UK would be massively under represented as the 2nd biggest contributor and have less voting rights that Poland.
Remainers beware ....
Who said that the EU is corrupt?
03-04-2019, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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How predictable! France presently has more numbers than us, and we are equally represented with Italy!Who said that the EU is corrupt?
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