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Maybe so Pats darlin' - but if you've read the entire thread you'll see that Julie's OH, who is over 6' tall has been asked to reduce his weight to only 8 st - that is a ridiculous weight for a man of that age, build and height - 12 - 14st is probably the correct weight for a man of that height.
So it begs the question: why? As I've said, given all the commotion regarding the overstretched NHS, they have to reduce the waiting lists or the EU will step in again and insist Britain does not keep its people waiting too long for surgery.

Makes you wonder how they cope in an emergency situation when someone is rushed in who is overweight (or doesn't comply with some other criteria of the modern age) - do that stats show that the majority of those people tend to die during, or shortly after, surgery?
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Makes you wonder how they cope in an emergency situation when someone is rushed in who is overweight (or doesn't comply with some other criteria of the modern age) - do that stats show that the majority of those people tend to die during, or shortly after, surgery?
The difference is in benefits versus risks. In an emergency situation the benefits of surgery outweigh the risks, so there is no choice to be made. But in an elective situation where an op is being planned, it has to be decided if the risks are worth taking. So if for any reason you have a high chance of complications or death from surgery, it may not be worth taking that risk.
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The difference is in benefits versus risks. In an emergency situation the benefits of surgery outweigh the risks, so there is no choice to be made. But in an elective situation where an op is being planned, it has to be decided if the risks are worth taking. So if for any reason you have a high chance of complications or death from surgery, it may not be worth taking that risk.
Would you know if there is there a way to compare mortality rates re. surgical procedures from, say, 1960 to date?
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Would you know if there is there a way to compare mortality rates re. surgical procedures from, say, 1960 to date?
Not sure if records would be kept from as long ago as 1960, but deaths from surgical procedures are generally referred to the coroner. Mortality data is certainly collected generally, and if obesity is a contributory factor it will be entered as such on the death certificate.
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And yet overweight people survive surgery ...
But the risks are greater and in a non emergency the less risk the better the projected outcome.
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The difference is in benefits versus risks. In an emergency situation the benefits of surgery outweigh the risks, so there is no choice to be made. But in an elective situation where an op is being planned, it has to be decided if the risks are worth taking. So if for any reason you have a high chance of complications or death from surgery, it may not be worth taking that risk.
Again, this is so.
 
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