20-03-2017, 06:04 PM
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/781...y&utm_campaign
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20-03-2017, 06:46 PM
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It's good to know things will be moving at last
Whatever posturing and puffing out of chests there is from people like Juncker to make it seem they are going to be tough, I feel that good sense and mutual interest will prevail.
It is not in anyone's interests to be so tough they 'cut off their nose to spite their face'
I don't get this 'Oh we need to be tough or other countries might want to leave' well why not, if you don't feel a club suits you leaving is the obvious course of action and shouldn't be penalised.
20-03-2017, 07:27 PM
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HiWell we will soon know, or perhaps not.
There is much for some in the EU to lose from any breakup and Merkel and Juncker have an awful lot to lose, so they may well try to discourage others.
I must admit that I do not get this they have more to lose than we have thing which is do heavily promoted by some.
It simply does not make sense, the EU is a very big economy, so they will be paying Tariffs on 14% of their total exports whilst we will be paying Tariffs on 42% of our Exports.
The EU Countries are already here grabbing a slice of our Services Market, which is not covered by WTO Tariffs, so if they do not give our Companies Passporting Rights, we will be losing an awful lot of money in tax.
We shall see, a lot will depend on the skill of our politicians negotiating on our behalf.
We are subject to Internal wrangling, just look at Nicola.
The EU has much worse internal wrangling, many more Countries involved, some of whom export virtually nothing to the UK and have their own internal politics to sort out.
20-03-2017, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiWell we will soon know, or perhaps not.
There is much for some in the EU to lose from any breakup and Merkel and Juncker have an awful lot to lose, so they may well try to discourage others.
I must admit that I do not get this they have more to lose than we have thing which is do heavily promoted by some.
It simply does not make sense, the EU is a very big economy, so they will be paying Tariffs on 14% of their total exports whilst we will be paying Tariffs on 42% of our Exports.
The EU Countries are already here grabbing a slice of our Services Market, which is not covered by WTO Tariffs, so if they do not give our Companies Passporting Rights, we will be losing an awful lot of money in tax.
We shall see, a lot will depend on the skill of our politicians negotiating on our behalf.
We are subject to Internal wrangling, just look at Nicola.
The EU has much worse internal wrangling, many more Countries involved, some of whom export virtually nothing to the UK and have their own internal politics to sort out.
20-03-2017, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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It simply does not make sense, the EU is a very big economy, so they will be paying Tariffs on 14% of their total exports whilst we will be paying Tariffs on 42% of our Exports.
Firstly, I have every confidence that our negotiators will meet with success, not with the EU but with countries outside the EU. The proportion of our exports to the EU may well then become a good deal lower than the quoted 42%, as we begin to export more to other countries.
Secondly, it is more than possible that the EU will collapse: many have predicted it. It is not 'if', but 'when, and when it does, there are several countries presently in the EU who will welcome mutually beneficial trading agreements with us.
20-03-2017, 08:57 PM
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I believe that the EU is really worried that we might make a success of it, if we come out of smelling of roses and better off out than in, other countries are going to quote Brexit as an example for their own aspirations, and there will be no stopping them.If on the other hand it goes tits up, then the EU will never collapse and have carte Blanche to advance into a Federation of Europe.
20-03-2017, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rehab44
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I believe that the EU is really worried that we might make a success of it, if we come out of smelling of roses and better off out than in, other countries are going to quote Brexit as an example for their own aspirations, and there will be no stopping them. If on the other hand it goes tits up, then the EU will never collapse and have carte Blanche to advance into a Federation of Europe.
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