25-08-2019, 09:29 PM
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Re: Hard border or no hard border ?
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Decades? It was between the spring and autumn of 1976. Exaggeration comes with senileity not only amnesia. The cattle carousel operated from 1976 till mid 1977. Since it was NI paying the subsidy, it was north irish customs that put an end to this smuggling. And it was before the GFA, because it involved the smuggling (south) of the pigs/cattle that went north to cash the subsidy.
25-08-2019, 09:41 PM
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Re: Hard border or no hard border ?
Originally Posted by Muddy
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And with arrogance comes rudeness the weak man's imitation of strength .
25-08-2019, 10:07 PM
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Re: Hard border or no hard border ?
Originally Posted by Muddy
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Its nothing to with facts .Except the fact that your attitude is that of a supercilious arrogant AH .
25-08-2019, 10:23 PM
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Re: Hard border or no hard border ?
Originally Posted by Bread
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The whole of Ireland is outside the Schengen area so passports are checked in and out and also when people come across to the rest of the UK (and EU)After Brexit this will not change Ireland and the UK will remain outside of Schengen.
Within the ireland of Ireland there is the common travel area where people can move freely once they have entered Ireland in the north and south.
Conversely the EU would not want goods entering the EU without payment of any tariffs that may be due which would be all to easy without some kind of border checks be they manual or a tech solution which doesn’t yet exist
So would you be happy with the above scenario ?
25-08-2019, 10:33 PM
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Re: Hard border or no hard border ?
Originally Posted by Banchory
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So without passport checks on the ROI/NI border or in the Irish Sea what’s to stop any European flying to Dublin, travelling to NI by way of the the common travel area and birding a ferry to the UK and then disappearing into the black economy?Conversely the EU would not want goods entering the EU without payment of any tariffs that may be due which would be all to easy without some kind of border checks be they manual or a tech solution which doesn’t yet exist
So would you be happy with the above scenario ?
He would have to show his passport. Ireland is not in Schengen.
Can you please read what I'm putting on here ? Why do you ask the same question? Do you not understand how trade works ?
Do you honestly believe customs officials open up all the lorries and boxes etc ? Its fine on line !
Read smart border 2 - its the EU solution they came up with
Why do we need to do checks on borders ? We don't do that now
Jeez
25-08-2019, 11:58 PM
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Re: Hard border or no hard border ?
Originally Posted by Muddy
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Have you considered having more nookie ?It would take your mind off things .
Or is that the problem ?
26-08-2019, 07:53 AM
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Re: Hard border or no hard border ?
Originally Posted by Bread
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He would have to show his passport. Ireland is not in Schengen.Can you please read what I'm putting on here ? Why do you ask the same question? Do you not understand how trade works ?
Do you honestly believe customs officials open up all the lorries and boxes etc ? Its fine on line !
Read smart border 2 - its the EU solution they came up with
Why do we need to do checks on borders ? We don't do that now
Jeez
Yes a citizen of another EU country would have their passport checked at the point of entry into the ROI, at least you understand that.
But please enlighten me as to how the UK will prevent any of them illegally entering the UK if we do not intend to have hard border checks or any tech solution to prevent that
The ROI cannot refuse entry to any EU citizen so they are not going to be of any use and one of the key brexiteer arguments was the control of immigration and yet you suggest leaving the back door open
Additionally, a colleague of mine Postulated the other day that other countries may lodge a complaint with the WTO if we offer open boarders to one country whilst trading under WTO rules and not to all.
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