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Never worried what others do, workwise, just get on with what you do, provided the numbers stack up.
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If that was the case, why does Labour not want to control Immigration?
Are you talking Labour or JC?

The latter has no idea whatsoever other than to destablise, destroy, take control and ruin.
That man could not control his own bladder!
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13-06-2017, 10:24 PM
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Oh Dear.
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13-06-2017, 10:25 PM
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While we have people on the dole we have enough people here to do the jobs. If the Eu member states stop sending people here we'll need less of many things anyway. Might even get a GP appointment !
But why are they not doing these jobs now? there must be a reason if people who cannot even speak the language fluently can walk into jobs.
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13-06-2017, 10:27 PM
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Training and making it easier for them to get into work. If you've ever been on benefit you'd realise how paralysingly scary it is to sign off putting your home at risk in case the job doesn't work out.

Training including prior to taking a job teaching them to get up and do something each day, it's a habit that if you haven't been working is hard to get, so you may need a reason and help to do so.

Help them don't punish them notice which is what has happened up till now and has spectacularly failed.
Far more scary to leave your country and go to a foreign one where you are not wanted. There's a culture of complacency here.
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13-06-2017, 10:35 PM
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Far more scary to leave your country and go to a foreign one where you are not wanted. There's a culture of complacency here.
Yes - and it's nurtured by the benefits system which attracts some - not all - foreign workers. The rules have been tightened to prevent most scumbag frauds, but unfortunately not all. We need to tighten the rules again......limit child benefit; no benefits without paying into the system first, no remittances outside the UK for benefit recipients.....a credit system perhaps. Also look to our own for full disclosure of their financial status; tax returns; investments - demand auditing of expenses.
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13-06-2017, 10:39 PM
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But why are they not doing these jobs now? there must be a reason if people who cannot even speak the language fluently can walk into jobs.
Easy really. Johnny foreigner are willing to carry out the less attractive jobs and have money coming in. That way, if they prove employment, they can perhaps ask to stay here.
Unfortunately, some of our indigenous population earn as much money on the dole as they would working for the minimum wage. That and claiming all the benefits they can, results in more immigrants that want to work.
This doesn't help either


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40248366
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13-06-2017, 10:41 PM
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A very naive point of view IMHO. Immigration has nothing whatever to do with being nice, non-racist, welcoming liberals, and everything to do with the rich who really run this country wanting mass imports of cheap labour to drive down wages and further emasculate the trades union movement. In addition, the effect of immigration on those poorer countries whose workforces are being tempted to the UK is devastating. Do you think that the countries which have, for example, trained all their doctors and nurses only for them to up sticks and move here, can afford to lose their human resources?
Mass immigration is bad for UK workers, and even worse for the poor countries from which they come. There is nothing "nice" or "progressive" about mass immigration - it is purely concerned with increasing the profits of the rich.
But it's good for the UK economy, good for consumers (be they rich or poor) who benefit from low prices, good for efficiency, good for making sure our services are running, good for keeping inflation down. Yes it disadvantages the countries of origin, but they should be making more effort to keep workers where they are.
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13-06-2017, 10:46 PM
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Yes it disadvantages the countries of origin, but they should be making more effort to keep workers where they are.
The best way to get rid of workers, is to increase taxes! So when the government refuses to impose a 50% tax rate on the highest earners..........you'll know why!
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13-06-2017, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gasman ->
Easy really. Johnny foreigner are willing to carry out the less attractive jobs and have money coming in. That way, if they prove employment, they can perhaps ask to stay here.
Unfortunately, some of our indigenous population earn as much money on the dole as they would working for the minimum wage. That and claiming all the benefits they can, results in more immigrants that want to work.
This doesn't help either


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40248366
So they do the jobs nobody wants and nobody is forcing our dole claimants to be toilet attendants or chicken pluckers. The economy grows, we have clean toilets and cheap chicken in the shops and takeaways. They earn next to nothing and work under awful conditions and we still complain about them.
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