24-03-2019, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Still researching PR. Could someone tell me, could PR lead to tactical voting?
If it is expected that a party will get enough votes for 10 seats, and you are number 12 on the list (here party machinations come in), you know beforehand you won't make it to parliament. The exception is, if you have as number 12, more votes than number 10, you get the seat. That's preferential voting. So if you are more popular than the other candidates, of your party you still will get a seat in parliament.
24-03-2019, 07:47 PM
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Re: Replace ‘first past the post’ voting with ‘Proportional Representation’.
Originally Posted by TessA
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I'm not sure if this is what I'd like.I get fed up of having to vote in General Elections only for the parties which are represented in my area. If there's no candidate for the party I want to vote for I have to choose another.
I'd like a choice of all parties where the Government is concerned. I'd like my choice of local MP from all parties, if one party wins and doesn't have anyone in my area they should appoint one.
I'd like to vote separately for my choice of PM. I'd like each minister to be chosen for their experience in the field of their ministry no matter which party they belong to.
Best person for each job not swapping around with no knowledge.
Opposition would be made up of next in line for their job.
Multi-party government or do away with party politics all together.
25-03-2019, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TessA
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I'd like each minister to be chosen for their experience in the field of their ministry no matter which party they belong to.
You're living in dreamland Tessa, I'd settle for them having experience of something in the real world rather than just doing PPE at university before going straight into politics.
26-03-2019, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Signed !!!This is just the beginning matey, I also want to see the HoL abolished, to be replaced with a democratically elected second chamber, convert MPs into delegates, and abolish the Monarchy - again to be replaced with a democratically elected President.
26-03-2019, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Moscow
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I agree with you on all points!
26-03-2019, 09:33 PM
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We have MMP, (Mixed Member Proportional) and we are generally very happy with it. When we had FPP system we often got a party in charge who just happened to get more than any other party but nowhere near 50% or more. Every election we get 2 votes. One for a party and one for the candidate.Why do you need an upper house? And God forbid we ever have a president!
27-03-2019, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ciderman
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We have MMP, (Mixed Member Proportional) and we are generally very happy with it. When we had FPP system we often got a party in charge who just happened to get more than any other party but nowhere near 50% or more. Every election we get 2 votes. One for a party and one for the candidate. Why do you need an upper house? And God forbid we ever have a president!
If we get rid of Mrs Windsor or Charlie the turd, you'll need to find your own head of state, and therefore will need a 'President' or sovereign of New Zealand.
27-03-2019, 09:55 AM
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Scottish Parliament elections use the Additional Member System in order to arrive at a more proportional result. Look it up, I’m not going to try and explain it here, it’s a bit complicated. I’m not saying it’s any better than any other proportional system, just another system to consider as I agree that the first past the post system must go. Interestingly enough, council elections up here are by the Single Transferable Vote system.Westminster failed to agree to alternative to The House of Lords (2003 I believe), now there’s a surprise! It’s a beacon of privilege as is the monarchy. The disproportionate influence of Oxbridge in Parliament and the Civil Service is an insult to democracy!
However, turkeys don’t vote for Christmas, so don’t expect the Tories and the Labour parties to lead on change.
27-03-2019, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fosterbrad
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Precise analysis. Every vote would count. So if 20 million votes are cast in an general election and say UKIP received 1 million of those votes they would receive 5% of all seats in the elected assembly (Parliament). So will you sign my petition Shropshire girl?
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