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The aftermath of the referendum is I have more or less given up on the human race. We are an ugly lot in so many ways. I despair at what has been and what it is to come. I will be watching from the wings from now on whilst keeping the whole unraveling of Europe at arms length.

The EU is a massive failure - integration is also a massive failure - cultures were not meant to merge - the strong shall inherit the earth and so on.

Just keep an eye on Germany to see how things are going to pan out with regard to the EU's vision of completely merging cultures, religions and nationalities. Merkel's own people will show exactly how it was never meant to be.

Sharp rise in right-wing crime in Germany just 'the tip of the iceberg'
http://www.dw.com/en/sharp-rise-in-r...erg/a-19041652

Google Search: germany right wing extremism
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ge...MtCN8QePoLygDA

I really wish things were different.

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You mean like holding a flawed petition to have the exit result nullified?

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The troubles caused by the recent immigrants in Germany are bound to create a rise of right-wing extremists. A possible outcome might even be the growth of another National Socialist Party, as in the 1930s.

If similar things begin to happen as did all those years ago, I can imagine that there will be a mass exodus of those people and it wouldn't surprise me if they all came scuttling over here. Despite our 'moat', I'd be very surprised if they weren't heartily welcomed as 'oppressed people'. The Brits are like that!

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MKJ I agree with some of your last post especially Germany and the recrudescence of the Right and I note those links with concern.

I share concerns about the potential influx from the war torn areas but do not quite agree with JBR's conclusions.

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You mean you'd be the first to welcome them here, despite all the trouble they have been causing?

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No I didn't say that but what do we do about the problem??

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I know it's thought that all Brexiters want to stop immigration but that's not true, I think it's better that we know who is coming in, for us to decide, not the EU but most of all being able to deport criminals and undesirables. The refugees from Syria, fleeing from their war torn country, and at the same time many from other countries also fleeing from drought and famine, they were only doing what we would do, look for survival for their families. Not only Syria suffered from drought and famine, but their were other countries such as Sudan and Ethiopia were in a critical position and thousands were dying as a result.

None of the countries were prepared for the sheer numbers coming in and probably most of the immigrants would rather be in their own countries. Unfortunately this has been used by illegal immigrants masquarading as refugees. Taking over villages to find homes for them has caused problems because the villages were too small for vast amounts of immigrants to get housed and arriving in a new country with very little instruction on how we live or how we expect residents to behave, has added resentment in some cases.

It will all take time and the Remain supporters can shout all they like about Brexit not having a plan, but with Cameron throwing in the towel and putting the government in a quandry, the EU will not negotiate anything until article 50 has been triggered and it's up to the EU to give us an exit date - then negotiations can start.

There is also the posibility that there are laws in the UK parliament which allows us to leave without all the palaver of article 50. (It was also a lie to say an exit vote would be final, no return. If anyone would read article 50 it states that if any member wishing to leave and then rejoin then they can apply under article 49). Rejoining of course would need full approval from the EU members, but it was still a lie to say exit would be final. However, I hope it would never come to that. There is also the question about the UK constitution, Bill of Rights, Magna Carta etc which could perhaps make signing the treaties an act of treason.
There are plenty of explanations on the internet.

John Bingley has a series of YouTube videos explaining the UK constitution and he probably knows a lot more about it than most of the MPs. They are interesting to watch if you are interested.
Part 1

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No, I did not say that!
I'm accepting the result.
Don't try to blame folk like me for that sort of thing, the same would happen if it had gone the other way, it always does
There are bad losers, but also bad winners, who by the way have no answers as to what happens now!

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Until the negotiations take place what is there to do ? We are still in eu, still paying millions to belong to the club.

Personally i blame them they seem to be singularly unprepared for a country to leave. You'd think they might have a plan to make it happen after a referendum but seems not.