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Nothing to do with double standards.
Of course not, that's why I wouldn't dream of mentioning them.

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I abhor illegal creatures.
Yes, abhorring things seems to be your favourite pastime.

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Where are we considering moving to if we decide to? We both have LEGAL options.
That sounds like a "don't know", to me, Todger.
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The problem of desire.
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minimum wage here is $18.90. Thats why Aussies are so affluent Bruce!
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minimum wage here is $18.90. Thats why Aussies are so affluent Bruce!
I think Todger could go to Israel. He suits the mentality.
Ha ha, I am not sure that is the reason, I suspect that NZ is the same, very few working people are actually on the minimum wage because awards cover most jobs, Certainly no tradesman or even semiskilled worker would be on the minimum wage as given in the OP. It really is a catch all wage for those who are not covered by an award or enterprise agreement.

For example here is the award giving pay rates and conditions for a delivery driver (as advertised in the OP), and employer can pay more but not less.

http://awardviewer.fwo.gov.au/award/show/MA000038

In the 1960s when the award for my trade was about $50 a week I was receiving a $112 over award payment. I fear those days are past but they were good while they lasted.
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Don't worry about the wage level, just lower all the prices, Simples!!
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Ex shop steward here.
Negotiated wages and conditions.
The conditions were universal but wages were variable.
We negotiated basic wages, we did not stop individuals from trying to improve their own.
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Of course not, that's why I wouldn't dream of mentioning them.


Yes, abhorring things seems to be your favourite pastime.


That sounds like a "don't know", to me, Todger.
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Ex shop steward here.
Negotiated wages and conditions.
The conditions were universal but wages were variable.
We negotiated basic wages, we did not stop individuals from trying to improve their own.
What were closed shops about then Tregonsee ??

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What were closed shops about then Tregonsee ??

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Had to be a union member to work there.

In the 50s, at AEI Trafford Park, with 25,000 workers, that meant "one out all out".

Strikes meant not paying your mortgage and were not infrequent in the early 60s.
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What were closed shops about then Tregonsee ??

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They were about unions promoting their own interests.
My agenda was to benefit the members.
 
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