25-10-2020, 04:02 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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The Government hasn't got a bottomless pit of money. Look at the billions they have given each council to distribute to those in most need? yet everyone is still clamouring for extra money for the childrens meals. Where does it stop?
25-10-2020, 04:24 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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The school meals funded during hols cost is estimated at a max of £20m. It's a drop in the ocean in the public purse. Paying furlough as a % across the board is what has eaten up all the money. I know people who weren't even working on contracts because there had been a downturn before covid, but were entitled to money because they had earned last year. Those were the rules the Govt applied. That's nuts. No checks and balances and now they don't have 20m for hungry kids.
25-10-2020, 04:55 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by spitfire
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There are many masks and gloves adorning the grass verges of this green and pleasant land, free for those willing to take a risk, to protect fellow discarders.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You can say the same for used condoms adorning trees and meadows across the land...
2. If the gloves are made of nitrile rubber or polythene then that's a completely different story altogether. 100s of years before they'll have broken down and disappeared.
3. The disposable masks are 3 layer fabrics. The middle layer is polypropylene. Again, it will be 100s of years before that breaks down and disappears.
With regards to the free school meals debacle, I said in the summer and I'll say it again. When the Government announced it would provide vouchers to needy families, I said they were providing a big stick that would be used to beat them with come ALL future school holidays. What has happened? Vouchers are being issued now for this ½ term break and talk is turning to the Christmas break. Then it will be Easter next year.
It's got to stop. The country can't afford it. I don't give a fart, flying or otherwise, about people screaming they can't afford to feed their kids. They CAN if they put their bloody minds to it. (I was on the dole back in the early 1980s and raising 2 children with my then 1st wife. They didn't go without, but my ex and I were on shorter measures.)
25-10-2020, 05:28 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Hungry because of lousy parents, no other reasons. None at all.
25-10-2020, 05:41 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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The reason we look after children's welfare in this country is because it is not the fault of the children if their parents are unable to look after them. There are so many tragic stories out there and the pandemic has added exponentially to that list. £20m is nothing compared with HS2 etc. Why on earth are we still paying for that?
That £20mil is already being given as tax payer hand outs, probably much more. If more than just teaching a kid has to be provided then garnish the Benefits the parent gets to pay for what they should be doing.
There's an old adage - IF YOU CAN'T FEED 'EM THEN DON'T BREED 'EM.
25-10-2020, 05:48 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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There's an old adage - IF YOU CAN'T FEED 'EM THEN DON'T BREED 'EM.
(I agree with your "old adage" by the way.)
25-10-2020, 06:04 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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They'll be saying they can't afford a packet of 3 next in that case (I agree with your "old adage" by the way.)
25-10-2020, 06:23 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Unable? Purleese! Unwilling more like. If a sole parent is incapacitated then there are benefits to support them physically as well as financially and if push comes to shove resources exist to take the kid(s) into care. That £20mil is already being given as tax payer hand outs, probably much more. If more than just teaching a kid has to be provided then garnish the Benefits the parent gets to pay for what they should be doing.
There's an old adage - IF YOU CAN'T FEED 'EM THEN DON'T BREED 'EM.
When so much money is being wasted on vanity projects they seek to stem a haemorrhage desperately from PPE and hungry children. HS2, bridges to Ireland, why is this not being questioned at this time?
25-10-2020, 07:15 PM
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Re: Boris puts 20% VAT back on Facemasks and Glovess.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You are going back to the parents because you cannot admit it is not the fault of a child if it is born into a dysfunctional family. These are hungry children being treated as political footballs. When so much money is being wasted on vanity projects they seek to stem a haemorrhage desperately from PPE and hungry children. HS2, bridges to Ireland, why is this not being questioned at this time?
FWIW I would rather see these parents educated in order to avoid budgeting problems rather than keep throwing unnecessary cash at them.
Cure the cause, not the effects and that way the children will see a benefit for the whole of the rest of their childhood, rather than for an soon-to-be-forgotten meal.
In another thread I detail how much the parents of chidren receive.
It is shocking that they get so much - and then say they can't cope.
It's media trying to turn it into a political football and the gullible that fall for it.
It is a recent trend, sadly, just like the rise in food banks.
Whoever would have imagined it really - that if you offer something for free you will be overwhelmed with demands!
In neither case am I saying that nobody needs these.
Just that the real number in need is almost vanishingly small in reality.
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