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16-10-2020, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
Boris actually said ...

“For whatever reason it’s clear from the summit that after 45 years of membership, they are not willing — unless there’s some fundamental change of approach — to offer this country the same terms as Canada”

“And so with high hearts and with complete confidence we will prepare to embrace the alternative”

Go Boris !
Hi

We and everyone else know that Boris is a liar.

He had better be ready for 1st January.

Anything else will be a betrayal of our Industries.
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16-10-2020, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Boris has not walked away and said we are leaving with No Deal.

He has simply blamed the EU and left the door open.
Xactly wot l said Swimmy !!
And l DID vote for no deal !!
Because l knew a ""deal" would come loaded with conditions etc !!
As we are witnessing now !!
Five years of futility ?? in search of a so called "deal"?
Its time for US to walk away

Donkeyman! 😟😟
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16-10-2020, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
2018

Donald Tusk offers UK a Canada-style trade deal in blow for Theresa May's Brexit plan https://www.cityam.com/donald-tusk-o...-blow-theresa/

Guess why may refused that canada style deal?

However, the deal put forward by Tusk would see Northern Ireland stay in the EU's customs union and Single Market in order to avoid a hard border with Ireland.

And it was boris johnson who accepted just that condition in his withdrawal agreement. In 2019.
He has changed his mind, then.
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16-10-2020, 02:40 PM
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The EU can't offer us what we want or everyone else would leave as well.
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16-10-2020, 03:00 PM
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He has changed his mind, then.
In the order of things, in that case boris should have proposed to alter the Withdrawal agreement by dumping the irish protocol and inserting the backstop. Then a canada style trade deal would be negotiable. But those are all passed stations now and a canada style deal is off the charts.
If only he had been negotiating on the UK side! https://www.change.org/p/kent-county...r-nigel-farage
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17-10-2020, 12:16 PM
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Nothing is "off" until either an agreement is reached or a formal declaration of "no deal" is made.
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17-10-2020, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
Nothing is "off" until either an agreement is reached or a formal declaration of "no deal" is made.
Both sides have indicated they want to carry on but the EU has said it is up to the UK to make the next move.

Speaking in Downing Street, Johnson declined to be drawn on whether the UK was now willing to walk away from the process amid differences over fisheries and competition policies.

The Prime Minister did not say that he would walk away from talks altogether and EU negotiator Michel Barnier is due for further talks in London on Monday.
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17-10-2020, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Both sides have indicated they want to carry on but the EU has said it is up to the UK to make the next move.

Speaking in Downing Street, Johnson declined to be drawn on whether the UK was now willing to walk away from the process amid differences over fisheries and competition policies.

The Prime Minister did not say that he would walk away from talks altogether and EU negotiator Michel Barnier is due for further talks in London on Monday.
Wrong (again).

Until the EU changes stance and accepts the UK as an independent sovereign nation thereby accepting no further EU jurisdiction over the UK in areas such as law; fishing/the seas; aand more there will be no deal.

Instead of misinterpretation I politely suggest you re-examine your understanding of current events.
The actual statements might help you; see the following.


https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/16/...ade-deal-talks
(The enclosed video makes it perfectly clear.)

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKBN2712M5

"Britain’s chief Brexit negotiator David Frost has told his European Union counterpart Michel Barnier not to come to London on Monday"
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17-10-2020, 04:58 PM
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Re: Boris has said it !!!

Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
Wrong (again).

Until the EU changes stance and accepts the UK as an independent sovereign nation thereby accepting no further EU jurisdiction over the UK in areas such as law; fishing/the seas; aand more there will be no deal.

Instead of misinterpretation I politely suggest you re-examine your understanding of current events.
The actual statements might help you; see the following.


https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/16/...ade-deal-talks
(The enclosed video makes it perfectly clear.)

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKBN2712M5

"Britain’s chief Brexit negotiator David Frost has told his European Union counterpart Michel Barnier not to come to London on Monday"
I actually watched that Euronews broadcast. Absolutely perfectly clear to me what Boris was saying AND meaning.
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17-10-2020, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
He has changed his mind, then.
Boris resigned over Chequers if you remember. The 2019 election and support for the revised withdrawal agreement had the Irish backstop removed - this is why he supported it because back then, he knew, with Bill Cash and John Redwood's clause (38 ?) regarding UK sovereignty, the whole WA could be changed using parliament if he got a massive majority in a General Election.
 
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