07-07-2019, 02:50 PM
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Re: Anne Widdecombe's Amazing Speech
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiI have no issues with Leaving.
As for Project Fear, it is a simple fact of life that a badly organised Brexit will hurt financially.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48899701
07-07-2019, 03:06 PM
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Re: Anne Widdecombe's Amazing Speech
Originally Posted by Solasch
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If even africans can grab the concept, why can't british? And don't bring up federalism, as even churchil said there was a part of sovereignty to pay as a price for free trading and peace.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48899701
"Even Africans" ..... ??????
That's racist implying people from Africa are stupid
Tut tut ...
08-07-2019, 12:19 PM
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Re: Anne Widdecombe's Amazing Speech
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You have in another thread said that you believe in anarchy.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I don't have the thread now
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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but you have frequently admitted your anarchic leanings.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You're not interested in conventional politics or democracy.
You have no vote whatsoever on any important issue that affects the country or its people. The referendum was the only example of such. Apart from that you can't vote for anything tangible at all.
In regards to anarchy, what I have said in other threads is that if teh ruling elite deny the will of the people by refusing to deliver a real BrExit then anarchy will be the likely end result.
This doesn't mean that I personally support anarchy, just that I have the common sense to see that anarchy is what will materialise out of wilfull suppression of the will of the people.
I do support a complete change to the political system. I think we should have a referendum system where we all get a vote on the key issues that affect the country and its people. I don't however believe the existing ruling elite will ever give us such a system. They want to remain in power on their lucrative gravy train.
People have the right to protest and if BrExit is denied us then millions should and I'm sure will, take to the streets and show their displeasure.
.Proof there's life in the old Gal still.
08-07-2019, 01:08 PM
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Re: Anne Widdecombe's Amazing Speech
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You have in another thread said that you believe in anarchy. I don't have the thread now but you have frequently admitted your anarchic leanings.
08-07-2019, 02:04 PM
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Re: Anne Widdecombe's Amazing Speech
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Thread: leavers and remainers: a call for unity?
"The UK's only course of action is to remove the EU operatives within government and put in their place true politicians who will dutifully represent the needs of the country and the wishes of its people.
That requires a revolution of some kind. "
and
"I would say that civil unrest is absolutely inevitable and will likely happen on an unprecedented scale all over the country simultaneously. There is no way at all that our police forces will be able to cope. "
and
"If our government held a General Election but refused to abide by the resulting vote, the nation would rightly descend into civil unrest"
and
"The referendum, advisory or not, comes with the same factors. If you choose to ignore the result, civil unrest will follow as night follows day."
and
"If we don't have a democracy, then mob rule is as good as any other system. "
I stand by all those comments. A "revolution" does not equate to anarchy. There are many kinds of revolution.
If democracy is ignored then however we personally feel about it, civil unrest will follow. Common sense. Understanding that is not support of anarchy no more than understanding what Jimmy Savile did is support of child abuse.
On the flip side of all that is the rather beligerent and laughable all sweeping comment by AnnieS that:
"Anyone pushing no deal is in my opinion pro anarchy"
You couldn't make it up really !
08-07-2019, 02:52 PM
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Re: Anne Widdecombe's Amazing Speech
Originally Posted by Realist
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No that's untrue. QED
Untrue
The current political system IS NOT democratic. It merely creates the illusion of choice and democracy to ignorant dumbed down people.
08-07-2019, 02:56 PM
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Re: Anne Widdecombe's Amazing Speech
Originally Posted by Realist
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Ah yes. . . ! My comments in that thread:"The UK's only course of action is to remove the EU operatives within government and put in their place true politicians who will dutifully represent the needs of the country and the wishes of its people.
That requires a revolution of some kind. "
and
"I would say that civil unrest is absolutely inevitable and will likely happen on an unprecedented scale all over the country simultaneously. There is no way at all that our police forces will be able to cope. "
and
"If our government held a General Election but refused to abide by the resulting vote, the nation would rightly descend into civil unrest"
and
"The referendum, advisory or not, comes with the same factors. If you choose to ignore the result, civil unrest will follow as night follows day."
and
"If we don't have a democracy, then mob rule is as good as any other system. "
I stand by all those comments. A "revolution" does not equate to anarchy. There are many kinds of revolution.
If democracy is ignored then however we personally feel about it, civil unrest will follow. Common sense. Understanding that is not support of anarchy no more than understanding what Jimmy Savile did is support of child abuse.
On the flip side of all that is the rather beligerent and laughable all sweeping comment by AnnieS that:
"Anyone pushing no deal is in my opinion pro anarchy"
You couldn't make it up really !
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