27-01-2019, 09:35 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by Realist
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Your searched text does not demonstrate anyone condoning or sanctioning anarchy.Your text shows the simple view that if you attempt to destroy the system of democracy, civil unrest is highly likely to ensue. It doesn't take a genius to realise this.
If a burglar breaks into a happy home and threatens the family one can predict that the family members might take up arms (whatever is to hand) and fight to defend themselves.
Making this simple prediction in no suggests one condones the violence.
I find your threats as sick as they are laughable.
I am glad that I make you laugh, just as your posts do me. Does that make us opposites or two of a kind?
27-01-2019, 09:41 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by Realist
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When we leave the EU, the treaties will have no authority, we will no longer be bound by them. We take back control of our own affairs, we restore our justice system, a justice system whose fairness and fundamental tenets like Habeus Corpus has been the envy of the world for a long time.
27-01-2019, 09:51 PM
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Re: The little french poison dwarf
Originally Posted by Solasch
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These changes that cameron negotiated never came into effect thanks to the referendum. But since the UK wanted these adaptations, I have no doubt it will be one the first items inserted in UK law.
Parliament reviewed the EU's Corpus Juris ideas and threw them out.
https://publications.parliament.uk/p...om/62/6204.htm
"Political enthusiasm to secure agreement is not always matched by an equal will or ability to ratify speedily. It is not surprising therefore that more radical solutions, such as the Corpus Juris, are being examined and debated. But our investigation has shown that this particular solution is objectionable on a number of grounds, which we examine in the following paragraphs. "
"But the more fundamental and strongest objections related to Part II (Criminal Procedure). The approaches taken in the United Kingdom to the investigation and prosecution of crime are quite different in several respects from those in other Member States and the model proposed in the Corpus Juris. Under the latter, for example, the functions of investigation and prosecution of offences and execution of sentences would be combined in the hands of a European Public Prosecutor (EPP). The trial would be in a national court but before a specialist judge, with no jury. The Commission could be involved as a Apartie civile@ in the proceedings. "
"A particular concern, however, is the powers of remand given to the agents of the EPP. The EDPP or an EDelPP can request a person's remand in custody without charge or remand on bail for a period of up to six months, renewable for three months, where there are reasonable grounds to suspect the accused has committed a Corpus Juris offence or good reasons for believing it necessary to stop him from committing such an offence or from fleeing after committing it (Article 20 (3)(g)). Though it would be in the discretion of the national judge to decide the matter, the prospect that an individual may be held in custody, without charge, for up to nine months is totally unacceptable. "
Pretty clear to me.
The UK would never accept the police state idea of Corpus Juris. We treasure honesty and fairness and the concept of "Innocent Until proven Guilty".
The EU wants to be able to lock people up for periods of 6 months or more with no evidence or case or trial. That speaks volumes about where the EU is heading and the kind of organisation it seeks to become. What totalitarian actions is it planning on taking if it feels the need to pass laws that give them the ability to remove basic freedoms of citizens and lock them up without trial?
The UK will not sanction such Orwellian practices.
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