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Brother whoever you like to call him objected on that we be protected from an over bearing government.
You know that IRA backing anti Iraq war pro Venezuelan lefty leader of the Labour party........gets it right more times than not.....aye ?
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20-11-2017, 11:08 PM
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My dog, Fang der Wunderhund , agrees, curled up on my lap, snoring slightly and chasing creatures in his dreams.
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20-11-2017, 11:10 PM
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Disappointing but not surprising. What will they get rid of next?
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21-11-2017, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Boot ->
I had a look to see which MPs had voted against including the animal sentience clause - just to make sure I never voted for any of them in future.
Apart from one Independent MP, all those MPs who voted against this Clause 30 were Tory or DUP.
Not one Tory voted for it.
Sickening that they put party politics above matters of conscience.

http://divisions.realworldvisuals.com/

The vote was very marginal so I hope some animal rights rigorous campaigning will force them to re-think.

I've signed a petition calling to repeal this decision - will you?

https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliame...ithdrawal-bill

"There can only be one reason to deny animal sentient status, and that is to exploit them"
Signed and shared. Probably no doubt that MP's Christopher Chope and Philip Davies voted against. They are the only two that consistently vote against the 'Wild Animals In Circuses' Amendment Bill. Goodness knows why !
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21-11-2017, 09:54 PM
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https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en...l_loc/?cXOsbgb

Is this the same petition?
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21-11-2017, 11:32 PM
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It could be a step to the return of fox hunting ?
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21-11-2017, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruv ->
It could be a step to the return of fox hunting ?
Return?

It never went away.
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22-11-2017, 06:54 AM
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What a complete misinformation this thread is, and scaremongering of the highest order

Here is a quote from my MP on the subject.....

"Essentially the Government chose to reject a very specific amendment that said we should directly transfer EU regulations on some aspects of animal welfare over to UK law, and we didn't think the specifics of the amendment were quite right so we didn't support it - however we're committed to delivering the highest animal welfare standards in Europe, and the UK has regularly lead the way in this area.

EU law is not automatically 'the best' and in this particular case our own standards are actually higher in many areas than the EU requires. So we chose not to transfer their regulations over and instead to seek to ensure we have the highest possible welfare standards ourselves.

The Government has made major policy announcements in recent months in this area, including CCTV in all slaughterhouses, ending the ivory trade, higher sentences for animal cruelty and various other plans that clearly show we are working to raise standards of animal welfare - nobody voted to say that animals can't feel pain! "
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22-11-2017, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry ->
What a complete misinformation this thread is, and scaremongering of the highest order

Here is a quote from my MP on the subject.....

"Essentially the Government chose to reject a very specific amendment that said we should directly transfer EU regulations on some aspects of animal welfare over to UK law, and we didn't think the specifics of the amendment were quite right so we didn't support it - however we're committed to delivering the highest animal welfare standards in Europe, and the UK has regularly lead the way in this area.

EU law is not automatically 'the best' and in this particular case our own standards are actually higher in many areas than the EU requires. So we chose not to transfer their regulations over and instead to seek to ensure we have the highest possible welfare standards ourselves.

The Government has made major policy announcements in recent months in this area, including CCTV in all slaughterhouses, ending the ivory trade, higher sentences for animal cruelty and various other plans that clearly show we are working to raise standards of animal welfare - nobody voted to say that animals can't feel pain! "
Hi

Thanks for that Barry.

There is so much misinformation about at the moment, from both sides.
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22-11-2017, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->
I agree with you there Meg. We have much higher standards in many things. That's why I've been wondering what all the fuss is about us leaving.
You're right there Julie.

Do people not realise that all the old B.S. standards for products were adopted in to EU law because British Standards were far superior to anything the EU had manage to cobble together at the time.
The BSI will continue,post Brexit, to set standards here.
Our attitude to safety standards has always been high and the only issue is compliance and many countries outwith the EU manage compliance and so will we.
 
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