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19-01-2019, 11:27 AM
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How to consult and re-negotiate

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/theresa-ma...195011581.html

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So, listen to the needs of other parties and ignore them and carry on as before.

Listening on the radio to some people who went to see May over the last few days, it seems that she sat there "like a Sphinx" before making what appeared to have been a pre-prepared statement.

I think the EU just might, just might, have been prepared to make some changes. But now they don't have to.

Nice thinking Theresa.
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19-01-2019, 11:40 AM
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This is her version of "strong and stable".
She is unable to bend, think outside the box.
I really think it's time for her to go.
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19-01-2019, 12:11 PM
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She is almost autistic in the way she sticks to one idea, she sees it as strong and stable but there comes a time it makes her more like a dictator than a PM.
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19-01-2019, 01:44 PM
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Listening on the radio to some people who went to see May over the last few days, it seems that she sat there "like a Sphinx" before making what appeared to have been a pre-prepared statement.

I think the EU just might, just might, have been prepared to make some changes. But now they don't have to.
Anyone who listened to Rory Stuart MP on question time will have picked up May's strategy which appears to be asking MPs to Downing street and enquiring exactly with which bits of her negotiated deal they do not agree and would they be prepared to sign a document stating that.
Presumably, if she can get a significant number of MPs who voted down her deal to do this and say for example they wish to have the backstop removed she has something concrete to take back to the EU.

Incidentally a couple of people including Bernard Jenkin MP have now said May never actually asked for the backstop to be removed but I have no idea how true that is.
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20-01-2019, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63 ->
I think the EU just might, just might, have been prepared to make some changes. But now they don't have to.
I suspect you don't understand what is happening. May isn't negotiating anything. She is doing what the EU tell her to do and has been doing that for the past 2 years. The EU have no intention of changing anything. They have no intention of allowing us to leave as it would be catastrophic for their little empire.

We have to stop thinking in terms of "us" and "them" when talking about our parliament and the EU. They are one and the same. No-one is negotiating deals. May has been given a deal to table and has been told to stick with it.

Corbyn has obviously been told to do his bit and start making a fuss about "No Deal" which he has done by refusing to talk with May unless "No Deal" is off the table. All a pantomime.

The EU oligarchs fear a "No Deal" the most, because it irrevocably sees us leave. They won't allow it under any circumstances.

So the pantomime is going to continue.

They will extend Article 50 and continue to subvert the democratic decision.

They don't care one jot about our democracy. We are nothing to them, just cannon fodder, chaff, the unclean masses, there to do as we are told. They are already so far in control of our country and it's government and every major institution that they don't care now if we see it for what it is.

We have been effectively invaded and conquered and it happened whilst everyone was busy watching TOWIE and X-Factor.

We are being assimilated into the Federal States of the EU.

We won't be Leaving. Sorry.
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20-01-2019, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63 ->
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/theresa-ma...195011581.html

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So, listen to the needs of other parties and ignore them and carry on as before.

Listening on the radio to some people who went to see May over the last few days, it seems that she sat there "like a Sphinx" before making what appeared to have been a pre-prepared statement.

I think the EU just might, just might, have been prepared to make some changes. But now they don't have to.

Nice thinking Theresa.

Of course you seem to be ignoring the fact that every idea put to the Brexit debate has been diametrically opposed, and so presumably are the ideas put to the PM during her consultations, so what can she do? Support camp A or support camp B?

An impossible situation and always has been, that is why she has continued along the middle path with mud and abuse slung at her from both sides. The middle ground is where we all have to move to if we are to get any form of Brexit. Perhaps it's time we all started to realise that.
 

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