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05-02-2019, 12:47 PM
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I simply want brexit and thankyou so much for keeping things simple just for little ole me
As to the border well that is the EU and Ireland’s choice but for two years now we’ve done nothing but waste time over the Irish doing what they do best , fighting themselves and so as too what the border is I really couldn’t care less to be honest as in reality we still have ‘border’ at all the sea ports that feed Ireland anyway .
I know it would never happen but considering our geographical position to Ireland , considering the trade between us , infrastructure ... I imagine in the years ahead Southern Ireland will go down as missing its greatest opportunity ever and that would have been to also brexit and done a trade deal very next day with the UK , but then intelligence has never been the Irish strongpoint ... is that simple enough ?
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05-02-2019, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Unsure ->
How is it their choice?? Sounds like you are advocating being held hostage by Ireland.

I'll try and make this simple for you. Do you want a hard border so we can trade under WTO, control immigrants and stop smugglers OR open border so that we cannot control anything but the Good Friday Agreement is honoured.
A hard border please.

We can still stop immigrants if we had the political will, but we can trade under WTO rules with whomever we want and no longer be subservient to the EU dictators.
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05-02-2019, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR ->
A hard border please.

We can still stop immigrants if we had the political will, but we can trade under WTO rules with whomever we want and no longer be subservient to the EU dictators.
And there is the rub ... the EU demands a hard border , EIRE advocates a hard border as it’s hard core EU lapdog ...but then BOTH in the next breath say NO HARD BORDER because of the peace agreement ... what a conundrum but it’s wasted two years brexit so far and still going strong , something has to give .....
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05-02-2019, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by marmaduke ->
And there is the rub ... the EU demands a hard border , EIRE advocates a hard border as it’s hard core EU lapdog ...but then BOTH in the next breath say NO HARD BORDER because of the peace agreement ... what a conundrum but it’s wasted two years brexit so far and still going strong , something has to give .....
May is the real one to blame.

None of this nonsense would be happening if she had simply begun to plan for a no-deal Brexit two years ago.
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05-02-2019, 01:40 PM
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And there is the rub ... , something has to give .....
Yes, give up brexit
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05-02-2019, 10:31 PM
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Good !!! Bring it on !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dU8mGjrjJk
And you sitting in your armchair in Brighton can go to hell in a hand cart !!!
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08-02-2019, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR ->
A hard border please.

We can still stop immigrants if we had the political will, but we can trade under WTO rules with whomever we want and no longer be subservient to the EU dictators.
So betray the Good Friday Agreement which the UK instigated and signed up for in good faith?
Withhold the £39B so no-one will ever trust us again.

Leave with no deal WTO on 30 March. Build a quick hard border right across Ireland. Maybe the Mexicans will pay?

Maybe you can also explain how we will change the thousands if not millions of legally binding commercial contract line items for both purchase and sales through the EU before we leave? Maybe a full on trade war with the EU would be best?


Also what WTO tariff will be applied bearing in mind that under WTO we cannot offer different tariffs to different countries.
Even WTO has rules. Where is your detailed plan for the next 51 days?

Putin must be absolutely killing himself laughing.
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08-02-2019, 12:34 PM
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So betray the Good Friday Agreement which the UK instigated and signed up for in good faith?
Withhold the £39B so no-one will ever trust us again.

Leave with no deal WTO on 30 March. Build a quick hard border right across Ireland. Maybe the Mexicans will pay?

Maybe you can also explain how we will change the thousands if not millions of legally binding commercial contract line items for both purchase and sales through the EU before we leave? Maybe a full on trade war with the EU would be best?

Also what WTO tariff will be applied bearing in mind that under WTO we cannot offer different tariffs to different countries.
Even WTO has rules. Where is your detailed plan for the next 51 days?

Putin must be absolutely killing himself laughing.
We don't give in to terrorists, or at least we never used to.

Neither do we give in to EU demands for money.

I see your true colours now. You are a remoaner.
Just give it a rest with your Project Fear.
You lost. Live with it.
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08-02-2019, 11:38 PM
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We don't give in to terrorists, or at least we never used to.

Neither do we give in to EU demands for money.

I see your true colours now. You are a remoaner.
Just give it a rest with your Project Fear.
You lost. Live with it.

And apart from repeating meaningless slogans and offensive remarks, what is your actual plan? What rate for our WTO imports? Or do you just want a trade war with the "evil, unelected" EU?

As for being a remainer I voted leave but not much in common with you.
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08-02-2019, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Unsure ->
And apart from repeating meaningless slogans and offensive remarks, what is your actual plan? What rate for our WTO imports? Or do you just want a trade war with the "evil, unelected" EU?

As for being a remainer I voted leave but not much in common with you.
So you've done a volte face!
 
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