03-02-2019, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist
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Grow your own veg people, simples.
There is a reason we have shops stocked full of fresh produce every day of the year and that reason is backed up by intricate planning and supply chains. We have some of the best logistics in this part of the world.
Thousands of years of civilisation and we prefer to go back in the cave and start from scratch?
03-02-2019, 01:40 PM
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In 2015 the UK produced 52% of food consumed in the UK. 29% was imported from the EU (which is a lot of food), the balance from the rest of the world. The 52% is net of exports. You cannot just divert the exports into domestic consumption. They are things we have enough of already and have their own contracts and supply chains. Unless of course you're going to sustain yourself on whisky....03-02-2019, 04:41 PM
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Re: Stockpiling
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Sure I will just give up my job. Then after months of backbreaking work in the garden will see my crops ruined by slugs or bad weather.
It's very easy to clear a space in the garden to plant veg and even easier to simply grow veg in pots and buckets and planters on the patio.
Effort required really is not much at all. Just plonk some decent soil/compost in the pots/site and plant the seedlings.
Nature does the rest. A couple of courgette plants in pots will produce loads of courgettes with no difficulty at all.
Potatoes grown in pots or even black bags will do extremely well and deliver the most tasty spuds you could wish for.
No back breaking work at all to achieve these things. Just need to keep them watered that's all.
Nature provides and does so in abundance. Plant 1, get many in return. It's exponential abundance.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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There is a reason we have shops stocked full of fresh produce every day of the year and that reason is backed up by intricate planning and supply chains. We have some of the best logistics in this part of the world.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Thousands of years of civilisation and we prefer to go back in the cave and start from scratch?
Our food, our water, our shelter. What next? Will they claim right to the atmosphere and start charging us for the air we breathe??
Nature is free. So it has always been.
No-one has a right to deny anyone the abundance of Nature
03-02-2019, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist
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Stupid comment TBH.It's very easy to clear a space in the garden to plant veg and even easier to simply grow veg in pots and buckets and planters on the patio.
Effort required really is not much at all. Just plonk some decent soil/compost in the pots/site and plant the seedlings.
Nature does the rest. A couple of courgette plants in pots will produce loads of courgettes with no difficulty at all.
I do the above every year Realist. It's a hobby and something I enjoy immensely, but it's certainly not effortless! It's time consuming and requires constant effort. I have some problems with my ligaments so I have to be careful not to overdo things. Not everyone is as robust as you are!
One year most of my crop was eaten by slugs. Last year snails destroyed much of it and then there was the heat. Before you advise pellets, we have a dog and two cats. I am planning raised beds this year and growing potatoes in sacks & other large containers. But that's all hard work.
But even with the best effort and lots of energy (which I don't have in bags after a day at work), the crop you can yield from a garden is not going to feed you all year. If you have the strength to dig up your whole garden it might sustain part of your diet for a couple of months. Eventually it spoils unless you spend all your spare time freezing it and pickling (frankly some of us have a life!).
Many people live in flats or houses without an acre of land. Are you proposing they can grow all they need inside their house? Where are they going to sleep?!
Originally Posted by Realist
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The reason is because some humans want to exploit other humans for their personal benefit and wealth. The businesses use the FREE abundance of Nature and then CHARGE the ordinary folk who have been conditioned to depend on shops and supermarkets.
Originally Posted by Realist
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Thousands of years of exploitation of the many by the few who thereby keep their nests well feathered at our expense.Our food, our water, our shelter. What next? Will they claim right to the atmosphere and start charging us for the air we breathe??
Nature is free. So it has always been.
No-one has a right to deny anyone the abundance of Nature
It's clear you're just pushing your anarchist agenda again. But for people to say "grow your own" is the most ridiculous Brexit propaganda I've yet to see. It's an underlying nonsense that's been pervading the armageddon-esce nature of recent debates. This is perversely coupled with assertions that talk of shortages is all "project fear".
The shambles has addled the thinking of leave-lovers.
03-02-2019, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TessA
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I was planning some raised beds for veg this year.Now someone had told me to grow my own, I'm not going to! So there!
Call me contrary, but I need to complain about as much as possible!
I have two raised beds and some large tubs and manage to grow a surprisingly large amount of produce with careful planting including 22 heads of garlic , early potatoes, enough runner beans for myself and the neighbours, leeks, 6 purple sprouting brocolli plants to cut and come again , rasberries and perpetual strawberries .
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