21-10-2020, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaphod
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OOH I liked this bit a little further on in the Flemish MEP's speech:"We never signed up to that kind of provision and if this goes on, sooner or later, the Flemish will have their say on this too."
If the EU don't change their stance towards the UK they really are risking tearing their own beloved union apart!
21-10-2020, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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You took the words out of my mouth Zaphod!!Solly is full of contradictions lm afraid !!
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21-10-2020, 06:17 PM
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The Dutch aren't happy... no solidarity with the EU here.https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-jan-eppink-vn
21-10-2020, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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The Dutch aren't happy... no solidarity with the EU here.https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-jan-eppink-vn
We've seen Flemish and German MEP's decrying the EU's behaviour while Britain forges forward with trade talks and deals - even with an EFTA member today signing a deal - and huge investments are still being made into the UK rather than the EU (as with the recent £1 billion pharma investment).
The EU are being slapped in the face already - if they don't give the UK what it wants & Boris does take us out with no deal, that won't improve the EU's position.
They were warned, long ago.
But the remainers here together with the EU pooh-poohed those warnings.
As to one of the remainers' favourite attempts at proving Brexit wrong with their "where is your 'we hold all the cards' " - it's here. Happening now in front of your eyes (if you open them).
You would probably have seen that earlier had it not been for Treason May and her capitulations.
We have nothing much to lose that can't quickly be regained, as the EU are already starting to see.
The EU can't say the same.
They risk hundreds of thousands of EU jobs and their business knows it; look at the letter below.
Here's the actual letter from industrial leaders of Germany, France and Italy from 14th October begging both parties to make a deal and why; they are sh**-scared of the amount of damage a no deal Brexit will cost them.
"A brutal split between continental Europe and the UK would add further difficulties to the difficulties and would undermine tens of thousands of jobs and activities in all our countries."
https://www.politico.eu/wp-content/u...201014-DEF.pdf
22-10-2020, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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Be funny watching Barnier and his clowns crawling back to Downing Street with their little satchels and packed lunches 
And apparently negotiations are going to enter "the TUNNEL" ??
WTF does that mean??
Sounds secretive to me ?
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22-10-2020, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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He is coming today Bread !And apparently negotiations are going to enter "the TUNNEL" ??
WTF does that mean??
Sounds secretive to me ?
Donkeyman! 🤔🤔
I just hope this doesn't mean the UK have compromised on the level playing field, fisheries and the ECJ etc - I doubt it but history tells me always to be cautious .... Nigel is watching !
22-10-2020, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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It means pretty much a media blackout until the final trade agreement is announced.I just hope this doesn't mean the UK have compromised on the level playing field, fisheries and the ECJ etc - I doubt it but history tells me always to be cautious .... Nigel is watching !
But the UK side agreed to resume talks after Mr Barnier said "compromises on both sides" were needed, in a speech on Wednesday. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54642907
However, Speaking at an event in Dublin ahead of the eighth round of trade talks next week, Mr Barnier claimed the EU "has moved" on some of its objectives.
The chief negotiator for the bloc said it was now the "choice" and "responsibility" of the UK to do the same, namely over key issues such as*the so-called level-playing field*and fisheries. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53998244
So if no 10 now agrees that compromises from both sides are needed, boris has caved in.
22-10-2020, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Talks resume after barnier has 'admitted' both parties need to compromise.But the UK side agreed to resume talks after Mr Barnier said "compromises on both sides" were needed, in a speech on Wednesday. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54642907
However, Speaking at an event in Dublin ahead of the eighth round of trade talks next week, Mr Barnier claimed the EU "has moved" on some of its objectives.
The chief negotiator for the bloc said it was now the "choice" and "responsibility" of the UK to do the same, namely over key issues such as*the so-called level-playing field*and fisheries. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53998244
So if no 10 now agrees that compromises from both sides are needed, boris has caved in.
Barnier caved.
Even the likes of Germany's Handelsblatt say so.
"EU negotiator Barnier surprisingly gives in - and the Tories celebrate Prime Minister Johnson" (translated from German)
https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik...Y3LKJ1lSvL-ap2
22-10-2020, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaphod
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Don't tell porkies just to put your own biased spin on things.Barnier caved.
Even the likes of Germany's Handelsblatt say so.
"EU negotiator Barnier surprisingly gives in - and the Tories celebrate Prime Minister Johnson" (translated from German)
https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik...Y3LKJ1lSvL-ap2
A british newspaper explained it this way:
One seemingly innocuous phrase used by Michel Barnier on Wednesday – that “both sides” must compromise – was enough for No 10 to restart talks. There doesn’t appear to have been any substantial concessions made behind the scenes, which suggests the last few days has been pure grandstanding. *
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1219697.html
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