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Yes, I can vouch for that Zaphod. My SIL was a buyer for Clifford Williams factories in Telford and Oswestry in the 90's making British baby/toddler clothes, which of course were renowned for their superb first class quality. M&S had been their main customer for years. Then, as you said, the idiots at M&S decided to go cheap with India et al and stopped buying British. Needless to say, both factories lost their number one customer and went to the wall with several hundred jobs lost. Clifford Williams was the main employment for many in Oswestry.
It's no wonder M&S clothing has gone from bad to worse.
Serve the beggars right for putting greed before British quality.

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-BBC-latest-vn

Is this another wind- up. Just do one EU.

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Must be Cinders, couldnt be that arrogant could he??

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Unless the EU can change UK law by some miracle i would say no chance.

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Thankfully, they can't.

Our biggest worry, in my mind, is our own politicians changing our laws.

So far, we're lucky. Boris and most of the Conservatives seem to be supporting the majority of the electorate (sensibly!) and our wish to become an independent sovereign country.

However, it would only take a change of heart (or something like the apparent American fiddling with the electoral system!) and a left-wing government could undo all the good that has been done.

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You can't blame him really. After fours years of pissing about you would think the UK would have got a plan and an agreement by now. Boris and his Eton chums are a complete waste of space as they lurch from one crisis to the next.

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Ah, are we seeing the opinions of an outsider reliant upon media and the biases of a few UK family and friends merely assuaging concerns and massaging an ego?


The previous 3 years have been the result of a combination of blatant attempts to thwart Brexit from UK politicians and the coercive nature of EU politicians.
That much is very widely accepted

The stance for a year now from the UK has been consistent, but the EU seem to harbour hope that - despite a referendum AND a pretty decisive General Election confirming what the British public wants - they will see the UK submit to a loss of sovereignty which is unheard-of outside times of war.
That is not likely to happen and there is no way can the EU not realize that.
Ergo they seek either domination/submission or no deal.
There simply cannot be any other reason for the EU's current stance.

As for our government and Boris - you really do need to stop paying so much attention to what UK media is saying, because the bias therein is little short of incredible.
Far from the "lurching" and supposed crises you (and our media, which is where presumsably you base your opinions) suggest, this government under Boris seem to have a pretty firm grip on Brexit at least.
Deals are being done and preperations made, though some UK business does seen somewhat reluctant to prepare for what increasingly looks inevitable.

There is no "crisis" and never has been, except perhaps for the stress placed upon our NHS by Covid - but in case you hadn't noticed, the entire world is affected by that including your own Oz.
Any allegations of crisis are fabrications of the media and those determined to promote unrest for whatever reason.
The fact is that - despite Covid and Brexit - the country is actually coping admirably well.

Despite the hopes of some, mostly fanatical about some lost cause or other, the simple fact is that the UK will not sink - and nor will it drift off into mid-Atlantic.
The likelihood is that for the most part things will continue as before, with few changes.
Those changes are what the UK voted for.
Twice.
The EU and indeed the world are looking on to see how well the UK will fare once out of the grasp of the EU.
The likelihood is that the UK will do far better outside than inside.

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The original departure date now very far in the past indeed.

After taking nine months to trigger A50, with the negotiation period initially meant to last for two years.

Extension, Flextension Time is up. 4 and a 1/2 years wasted that is obvious.

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Hi Brucy, l think Zaphod has answered you adequately enough ?
You take too much notice of your media?

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we should have left the day after the results were annnounced not fluff around as we have done
Trade deals would have been sorted out world wide the EU would understand that leave means leave.
By this time other EU countries would see we manage ok and be thinking of quitting as well