Re: Not going too well for Brexit!!!

Sorry guys.

Following the arrival of the*MOL Triumph*(20,170 TEU) on 19 May and the*Madrid Maersk*(20,568 TEU) on the morning of Monday 12 June, the*OOCL Hong Kong*is expected to arrive in*Rotterdam*on the afternoon of Friday 23 June (2017). At 21,413 TEU, it is the world’s largest container ship. It will also call in at the European ports of*Felixstowe,*Gdansk*and*Wilhelmshaven. Its arrival will mark the climax of a month of increasingly large container ships in Rotterdam and confirms the importance of the scaling-up of container shipping to the Port of Rotterdam.

Just over two years ago, the*MSC Oscar*headed the list of the largest container ships, but this spring the vessel was relegated from the top three. The arrival of the three ULCCs (ultra-large container carriers) underlines the importance of scaling up in the container handling industry. Emile Hoogsteden - Director of Containers at Breakbulk & Logistics - is delighted with the arrival of the container leviathans: “Rotterdam is the only port in North-western Europe where these huge vessels can moor without any restrictions.”

Maasvlakte 2 at full steam

Hoogsteden is also pleased with the striking growth in the Rotterdam container sector (8.8% by volume (TEU), 10.8% by weight) during the first quarter of 2017. “The growth in container handling is largely down to the fact that Maasvlakte 2 is now truly operating at full steam.” Activity at the new terminals on Maasvlakte 2 is improving all the time, and shipping companies have brought back to Rotterdam substantial quantities of cargo that had been moved elsewhere in late 2015 and early 2016.

Ronald Lughart, Director at Rotterdam World Gateway, one of two fully automated container terminals at Maasvlakte 2, confirmed this last month when the MOL Triumph sailed into port: “The occupancy rate at our fully automated terminal is currently at around 90%.”

Source: Port of Rotterdam

Re: Not going too well for Brexit!!!

Hi

I am at a loss to understand.

Your post confirms that Felixstowe can handle the largest there is.

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Yes, but to what purpose? Ports like Gdansk, Rotterdam and Wilhelmhaven are just ports of entry for supplying very large "hinterlands". The demand is ever increasing, especially as the number of members increases.
The demand by the UK market is rather stable. Import by these giant ships just pushes smaller (british ) shipping companies out of the market.

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Before brexit we had those who couldn't see the profits of the EU. Discontent with their present situation they blaned the EU. Wilders' party got a lot of support in that nationalistic corner.
Than came the british choice for brexit. That was an opportunity to get more information on the (benefits of the) EU. The call to leave the EU is struck dumb in our country.
Now a lot of people are watching how the UK fares. To prevent any new stirrings to leave the EU, here or in other countries, Germany and France will make sure the effects for the UK will be severe. That is more in their interest than bringing the UK back in. Moreover since the UK has been an obstinate member from the beginning, intent to get a better deal than the other members in the EU.

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As luck would have it here is a complete and easily understood explanation of the Greek Economy.

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They are already out of the market. There are but one or two ships actually registered in the UK.
The rest are all registered around the world in the various tax & Health & Safety havens.

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Correct.

And there will be others before we are "Out".

Also, All the ships do not arrive on the same day, they'll be like buses - arriving, dropping off, and carrying on to other Ports.

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Again, to what purpose. Your import and export is not increasing, certainly not after brexit. Mainland ports have a growing market to service.

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Hi

The thing is nobody knows what will happen after Brexit as regards Trade.

In respect of your statement that France and Germany will punish the UK for leaving to deter others.

They have the financial might to do that, I do not dispute that they have the upper hand in that respect.

They would be foolish to do so as both countries depend on our Security Information.

No EU Country has anything even approaching our GCHQ.

A No Deal means that we are free to do what we want, which would include turning ourselves into a huge Tax Haven floating just off the coast of France.

I sincerely hope that it does not come to this, but if it does it will not be down to the UK.

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From the report send to the house, october9, 2018

Without UK access to SIS II, individuals who pose a genuine threat will be able to enter the UK or the EU without important intelligence being flagged to border officials. Losing access to it would be a calamitous outcome for the UK, which wouldpose a severe threat to the government’s ability to prevent serious crime and secure
the border effectively, but it is an increasingly likely prospect. Retaining SIS II access should be a primary negotiating objective for the Government: it should publish a detailed assessment of the impact of losing access, and focus significant efforts on persuading the EU27 to widen its negotiating mandate on data exchange. We are very
concerned about the vast distance between the EU and UK’s positions on this extremely significant issue, and the Government’s recent White Paper does nothing to close that gap. (Paragraph 36)
5. We urge the EU to outline the conditions that it would expect the UK to meet in order to retain access to SIS II