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28-10-2018, 03:44 PM
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Re: Napoleon Tribute Act At It Again!

Originally Posted by JBR ->
Yes, and here's yet another element of Project Fear.
Here is one you can write your mp about. Will be discussed october 30 in the house.

There is no adequate ‘fall-back’ position for aviation services in
the event that no agreement is reached with the EU. Air services
are excluded from the WTO, and the pre-existing bilateral air
services agreements between the UK and individual EU Member
States may not be valid, given the EU’s extended competence in
this area. It follows that, in order to avoid significant damage to
the UK aviation sector, either a UK-EU bilateral air services
agreement must be agreed before the UK leaves the EU in 2019,
or a transitional arrangement must be adopted, to allow
continuing UK participation in the Single Market for aviation
pending conclusion of a comprehensive agreement.

So would planes actually stop flying between the UK and the
EU27? In principle, absent measures to mitigate the impact of no
deal, that is possible – if only because their lawyers would not let
them. But, even assuming that some stop-gap arrangement were
to be put in place, it seems likely that there would be very serious
impacts, with many airlines reducing their schedules to the UK,
both immediately and in the medium term.

Time is precious. The Brexit clock is ticking towards a deadline of
March 2019. But the aviation deadline is earlier. Normally
passengers can book travel about a year in advance. At a
minimum, the flight schedules and seat and cargo inventories
must be available at least six months in advance. So that puts the
airlines’ deadline at October 2018…
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28-10-2018, 03:48 PM
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Re: Napoleon Tribute Act At It Again!

This time next year, Rodders, we will all be millionaires!
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28-10-2018, 09:18 PM
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Re: Napoleon Tribute Act At It Again!

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Here is one you can write your mp about. Will be discussed october 30 in the house.

There is no adequate ‘fall-back’ position for aviation services in
the event that no agreement is reached with the EU. Air services
are excluded from the WTO, and the pre-existing bilateral air
services agreements between the UK and individual EU Member
States may not be valid, given the EU’s extended competence in
this area. It follows that, in order to avoid significant damage to
the UK aviation sector, either a UK-EU bilateral air services
agreement must be agreed before the UK leaves the EU in 2019,
or a transitional arrangement must be adopted, to allow
continuing UK participation in the Single Market for aviation
pending conclusion of a comprehensive agreement.

So would planes actually stop flying between the UK and the
EU27? In principle, absent measures to mitigate the impact of no
deal, that is possible – if only because their lawyers would not let
them. But, even assuming that some stop-gap arrangement were
to be put in place, it seems likely that there would be very serious
impacts, with many airlines reducing their schedules to the UK,
both immediately and in the medium term.

Time is precious. The Brexit clock is ticking towards a deadline of
March 2019. But the aviation deadline is earlier. Normally
passengers can book travel about a year in advance. At a
minimum, the flight schedules and seat and cargo inventories
must be available at least six months in advance. So that puts the
airlines’ deadline at October 2018…


There are far too many flights nowadays to be fair.

Less flights are a Brexit Bonus.

I'm sure all that spent aviation fuel is damaging the environment.

Brits can holiday in the UK and business people don't need to travel to conduct their business so much these days.

We'll have no MEP's needing to fly to Europe.

I can't see a problem tbh
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28-10-2018, 09:19 PM
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Re: Napoleon Tribute Act At It Again!

Originally Posted by Purwell ->
This time next year, Rodders, we will all be millionaires!
This time next year, Purwell, we will all be FREE!
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28-10-2018, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Moscow ->
This time next year, Purwell, we will all be FREE!
2019 = Year zero?
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28-10-2018, 09:42 PM
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Re: Napoleon Tribute Act At It Again!

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
2019 = Year zero?
You mean the EU lives 2 milennia ahead of you. Who said brexit turned back the clock two centruries?
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28-10-2018, 09:46 PM
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Re: Napoleon Tribute Act At It Again!

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
You mean the EU lives 2 milennia ahead of you. Who said brexit turned back the clock two centruries?
I was thinking of Pol Pot...
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28-10-2018, 10:01 PM
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Re: Napoleon Tribute Act At It Again!

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I was thinking of Pol Pot...
I know pols potten. Bit too common for me. Pol Pot is dead and forgotten and history.
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29-10-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
I was thinking of Pol Pot...
You refer to a disaster caused by one well educated man (essentialy). Brexit's disastrous consequence for UK economy is caused by 17,4 mln ignorant voters (ultimately).
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29-10-2018, 06:49 PM
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Re: Napoleon Tribute Act At It Again!

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Here is one you can write your mp about. Will be discussed october 30 in the house.

There is no adequate ‘fall-back’ position for aviation services in
the event that no agreement is reached with the EU. Air services
are excluded from the WTO, and the pre-existing bilateral air
services agreements between the UK and individual EU Member
States may not be valid, given the EU’s extended competence in
this area. It follows that, in order to avoid significant damage to
the UK aviation sector, either a UK-EU bilateral air services
agreement must be agreed before the UK leaves the EU in 2019,
or a transitional arrangement must be adopted, to allow
continuing UK participation in the Single Market for aviation
pending conclusion of a comprehensive agreement.

So would planes actually stop flying between the UK and the
EU27? In principle, absent measures to mitigate the impact of no
deal, that is possible – if only because their lawyers would not let
them. But, even assuming that some stop-gap arrangement were
to be put in place, it seems likely that there would be very serious
impacts, with many airlines reducing their schedules to the UK,
both immediately and in the medium term.

Time is precious. The Brexit clock is ticking towards a deadline of
March 2019. But the aviation deadline is earlier. Normally
passengers can book travel about a year in advance. At a
minimum, the flight schedules and seat and cargo inventories
must be available at least six months in advance. So that puts the
airlines’ deadline at October 2018…
Page 55 The Times Sat 27th Oct

Heathrow has raised a £1.6 billion buffer against the potential for Brexit to bring chaos in the skies. The issue of the latest bonds takes Heathrow's debt to £14.1 billion. The airport is owned by international investors including Ferrovial, the Spanish construction group, and the sovereign wealth fund of Qatar.

Page 52 of the same paper;

RBS makes £100 million provision to guard against losses from Brexit.

Obviously some people on this forum will treat this as project fear rather than a reaction by big business to the forthcoming Brexit chaos.

And of course there are those who because they have their heads in the sand could give a monkeys.
 
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