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22-03-2019, 07:24 PM
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Re: Whats Next for Brexit ?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
I know now why TM upset the POS hoc before she went to
Brussels, it was to ensure her deal got voted down so
we now, will definitely get extended to April.
Thus taking no deal off the table
Excuse given,to start new negotiations ie. NO. BREXIT.
If the deal does go through its Mays deal,also NO. BREXIT
All this has been set up in collusion with several players both
in the EU and in the British establishment
Result ,MAY has shafted us
I don't think the POS hoc had much to do with this, too stupid,
It was the UK establishment/ May/ EU big wigs.
THERESA. HAS WON.
What the f-----k now
Donkeyman.
Donkey, if the extension is till april, that means the may-deal is voted out again. In principle by that date a no deal brexit will happen. UNLESS british parliament comes up with a different solution to offer the EU.
If acceptable, the EU can extend till......well, forever if need be. The brits can organise a second referendum, and/or general elections. Any pasttime you like.
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22-03-2019, 08:06 PM
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Re: Whats Next for Brexit ?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
I know now why TM upset the POS hoc before she went to
Brussels, it was to ensure her deal got voted down so
we now, will definitely get extended to April.
Thus taking no deal off the table
Excuse given,to start new negotiations ie. NO. BREXIT.
If the deal does go through its Mays deal,also NO. BREXIT
All this has been set up in collusion with several players both
in the EU and in the British establishment
Result ,MAY has shafted us
I don't think the POS hoc had much to do with this, too stupid,
It was the UK establishment/ May/ EU big wigs.
THERESA. HAS WON.
What the f-----k now
Donkeyman.
I assume, then, that the two options will be:
- May's deal, and
- remain in the EU.

Ooh, I can't think which one I'd go for, if I were an MP of course.

But then, knowing our MPs, I'm sure they won't be able to make up their minds between these two completely opposite choices either.
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22-03-2019, 08:42 PM
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Hi

Things are not as clear cut as some think.

Under Conservative Party rules she cannot be subject to a Leadership challenge for many months, after winning the last one.

She is still determined to get her deal through, in spite of two huge defeats, and run down the clock.

The chances of a No Deal, delayed for two weeks from the 29th to April 12th have trebled.

I am told that she has refused to release the money needed to put No Deal into full operation.

A very high risk strategy, trying to force her deal through with the threat of No Deal being absolute chaos.

Things need to be done now, staff and equipment need to be moved, we need to be ready for No Deal.

I find this very, very, wrong.
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22-03-2019, 08:43 PM
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I assume, then, that the two options will be:
- May's deal, and
- remain in the EU.

Ooh, I can't think which one I'd go for, if I were an MP of course.

But then, knowing our MPs, I'm sure they won't be able to make up their minds between these two completely opposite choices either.
JBR,. Mays. Deal. Passed. No. BRXT
Mays Deal down. Ext to April to neg.new deal. No Brxt
29 th mar. exit ext has not been mentioned. has it?
there fore a new exit date must be negotiated.
Thus exit is off the table
ERGO,. May has shafted us.
H ave l missed something? let me. know please.
Best. Regards. Donkeyman.
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22-03-2019, 09:03 PM
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Re: Whats Next for Brexit ?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
JBR,. Mays. Deal. Passed. No. BRXT
Mays Deal down. Ext to April to neg.new deal. No Brxt
29 th mar. exit ext has not been mentioned. has it?
there fore a new exit date must be negotiated.
Thus exit is off the table
ERGO,. May has shafted us.
H ave l missed something? let me. know please.
Best. Regards. Donkeyman.
Hi

The EU have fixed a date, April 12th, 3 weeks away.

They have accepted we are leaving, they have things to do.

We are no longer in charge of this, May has handed it to the EU.

I am not fuming, it is worse.

I am deeply ashamed of what we have become.

I have an intense personal loathing of Juncker

To be dictated to by an aging drunkard speaks volumes for our Politicians.

We do not deserve to be lead by such idiots.
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22-03-2019, 09:05 PM
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Re: Whats Next for Brexit ?

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Hi

Things are not as clear cut as some think.

I am told that she has refused to release the money needed to put No Deal into full operation.

I find this very, very, wrong.
Isn't that based on a amendment passed in the HoC (cooper/morgan I seem to remember) instigating that parliament need to permit the expenditure of £2 bn set aside in the budget by Hammond? 2 bn set aside for no deal measures, but it requires a decision by parliament chosing for a no deal brexit.
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22-03-2019, 09:21 PM
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Isn't that based on a amendment passed in the HoC (I seem to remember) instigating that parliament need to permit the expenditure?
Hi

Nope, two overriding exceptions enshrined in Law.

Public Health and Public Safety.

Those are the only two things I am interested in.

I am really not bothered about losing income from tariffs, not my problem.

Losing access to databases and not having time to check is a big issue for me.

Waving vehicles through when we have several hundred ISIS desperate to get back here is just plain stupid.

The situation at airports will be even worse.
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22-03-2019, 10:14 PM
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Re: Whats Next for Brexit ?

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
I am told that she has refused to release the money needed to put No Deal into full operation.

A very high risk strategy, trying to force her deal through with the threat of No Deal being absolute chaos.

Things need to be done now, staff and equipment need to be moved, we need to be ready for No Deal.

I find this very, very, wrong.
It is indeed very, very wrong.

She should have been making the necessary provisions for a "no deal Brexit" (ie, the Brexit that 17.4 million people voted for) three years ago.

She didn't because she's full of her own importance and thinks she can do whatever she wants, regardless of other people's feeling.

Without doubt, the worst prime minister I have ever known...

except for B Liar, of course.
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22-03-2019, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
JBR,. Mays. Deal. Passed. No. BRXT
Mays Deal down. Ext to April to neg.new deal. No Brxt
29 th mar. exit ext has not been mentioned. has it?
there fore a new exit date must be negotiated.
Thus exit is off the table
ERGO,. May has shafted us.
H ave l missed something? let me. know please.
Best. Regards. Donkeyman.
Donkey, my sarcasm has gone right over your head, hasn't it?

Incidentally, you really like full stops, don't you?

Apologies. Not trying to be nasty, just sarcastic!
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22-03-2019, 10:24 PM
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Re: Whats Next for Brexit ?

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->

I am told that she has refused to release the money needed to put No Deal into full operation

A very high risk strategy, trying to force her deal through with the threat of No Deal being absolute chaos.

Things need to be done now, staff and equipment need to be moved, we need to be ready for No Deal.

I find this very, very, wrong.
That's a load of rubbish. Of course they would not release all the money if something isn't a definite. But it's not like no money has been released to plan for a no deal. It would be stupid to release all the money upfront for something that might never happen. Swim I think you are talking to people who just want to make mischief and don't know anything about financial risk. If there is a no deal it will be a financial titanic. Wasting loads of money now trying to work out where the iceberg will hit is just insanity.
 
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