15-02-2020, 10:13 AM
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I would say that the worst things about Oxbridge, billionaires and all the chummy-monies is that it is all one big secret or not so secret society of people rubbing the backs of others to keep all the money sloshing to certain places. It's all about who you know after all.So you can defend that culture if you think that's a good way for things to be but most of the time people here are knocking it. It's rather ironic to defend it just because it suits the current mindset. When it was the Cameron/Osbourne clique being mocked it was ok though to talk about self-serving billionaires and etonians etc. Interesting how things change!
15-02-2020, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Primus1
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiNot a very nice post, quite aggressive in fact.
Firstly, personal envy.
My brother and I have 4 kids, non went to Private School and 3 out of the 4 went to Oxbridge.
So you got that wrong.
There is a world of difference between the privately educated who have rich parents, then go to OXbridge with huge allowances and become members of invitation only clubs and those who get there from local schools on merit and who have to get part time jobs to fund their way
They have never not have private medical insurance, never had to wait for an NHS appointment.
Never had to watch the money.
They simply have no idea.through,
To address the subject, having money isn't a bar to empathy or sympathy. Many wealthy people, both old money and new money have experience of life in the commercial and and industrial sectors. Some wealthy people use their money to help others.
To many people talk about wealth as though it were a panacea of all ills but there are many difficulties in life which are not countered by hard cash.
You make far to many assumptions in your post about things you can never be sure about and attempt to pass them off as fact.
15-02-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by summer
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It makes good sense to me for the PM to surround himself with like minded people who are team players....why wouldn't you do that?
15-02-2020, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I would say that the worst things about Oxbridge, billionaires and all the chummy-monies is that it is all one big secret or not so secret society of people rubbing the backs of others to keep all the money sloshing to certain places. It's all about who you know after all. So you can defend that culture if you think that's a good way for things to be but most of the time people here are knocking it. It's rather ironic to defend it just because it suits the current mindset. When it was the Cameron/Osbourne clique being mocked it was ok though to talk about self-serving billionaires and etonians etc. Interesting how things change!
15-02-2020, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I would say that the worst things about Oxbridge, billionaires and all the chummy-monies is that it is all one big secret or not so secret society of people rubbing the backs of others to keep all the money sloshing to certain places. It's all about who you know after all. So you can defend that culture if you think that's a good way for things to be but most of the time people here are knocking it. It's rather ironic to defend it just because it suits the current mindset. When it was the Cameron/Osbourne clique being mocked it was ok though to talk about self-serving billionaires and etonians etc. Interesting how things change!
15-02-2020, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Helps some get £15k holidays paid for for sure!
No, seriously, where's the problem? Such things often come as perques (not perks of a job.
It was bad enough when such benefits became taxable, the amount of sleight of hand needed to evade being taxed was amazing though though usually well worth while but keep in mind that there really no such thing as a free lunch and such things had to be worth more to the provider than the cost.
There's a nasty smell of envy often surrounding wails about the unfairness where some get but more don't.
There shouldn't be. Such perques always have to be earned and invariably will appear on a ballance sheet somewhere.
So here's a question Annie. What is your opinion of a on time on budget contract completion bonus of US$2,000,000?
15-02-2020, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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What is the context of the $2m? Anyone with money can buy favour. That's the problem. This is the way things work in the world but it should not be how they work with someone who is in power.
As for the US $2,000,000, I just wondered about your thoughts of someone trousering a not insignificant amount for what might be construed as just doing their job?
Too much for one person? Wrong in principle? Should have been taken off the contract price? Just askin'.
15-02-2020, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainmaker
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What exactly, other than personal envy, is wrong with being educated at Oxbridge. Isn't it what we would all aspire to for our children. Also there are plenty of routes for the poor to get there these days.
The reason for this reshuffle is because Boris want's the government (as he said today) to focus on delivering their promises. The saying goes the Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton. In my view the battles of science and technology will be won at Oxbridge.
The same goes for the MAKING of money as opposed to
actually EARNING oodles of money??
It seems the concept of EARNING has changed somewhat?
Donkeyman!
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