10-06-2020, 02:02 PM
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Coronavirus came to UK 'on at least 1,300 separate occasions'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52993734The analysis also finds China, where the pandemic started, had a negligible impact on cases in the UK. Instead those initial cases came mostly from European countries.
They found the UK's coronavirus epidemic had at least 1,356 origins. On each of those occasions somebody brought the infection into the UK from abroad and the virus began to spread as a result.
The study showed that less than 0.1% of those imported cases came directly from China. Instead the UK's coronavirus epidemic was largely initiated by travel from Italy in late February, Spain in early-to-mid-March and then France in mid-to-late-March.
10-06-2020, 02:19 PM
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Re: Coronavirus came to UK 'on at least 1,300 separate occasions'
Originally Posted by Omah
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52993734All were made welcome in the the UK ..... no tests, no quarantine .....
10-06-2020, 03:59 PM
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Re: Coronavirus came to UK 'on at least 1,300 separate occasions'
Originally Posted by Omah
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52993734All were made welcome in the the UK ..... no tests, no quarantine .....
Theres only one answer to that! and if that source had been isolated
completely at the very beginning, ( and l mean really isolated not
the qualified isolation we got) then chances are there would have
been NO pandemic at all??
The blame lays with the larger economies of the world for
insisting on repatriating thosands of their citizens at a time that
required total isolation of china??
Donkeyman! 🤔🤔
10-06-2020, 04:12 PM
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Re: Coronavirus came to UK 'on at least 1,300 separate occasions'
Originally Posted by Baz46
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Which appears to go along with those who are far more qualified than most of us, when they have been saying "too little and too late". This has also been given as one reason why UK fatalities are so high. Borders, airports, sea ports should all have been 'closed down', or other methods such as tests and quarantine, as soon as it was known the virus was heading this way. I believe there was adequate notice of this too. The final ridiculous factor, in my opinion, was when flights from France were to be allowed. Was there something about France or those on those flights that protect them from carrying the virus into the UK!
The virus was allowed to travel from china! If this had not happened
then none of what you mention would have happened ether
I have posted on this a couple of times in the past!
Donkeyman! 😁😁
10-06-2020, 09:05 PM
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Re: Coronavirus came to UK 'on at least 1,300 separate occasions'
The effect of allowing those 1300+ into the UK was catastrphic:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52995064
An estimated 100,000 people were being infected every day in England by the time it went into lockdown (23rd March).
Introducing measures a week earlier would have significantly cut that figure and in turn saved lives.
The (official) number of people known to have died with coronavirus in the UK stands at 41,128.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-52992117
The first was the cumulative figure that the government uses at its daily briefings, which he pointed out has passed 40,000.
Yesterday’s figure was 40,883. It’s the number of people who have died after testing positive for coronavirus.
The second figure he used was based on reports of weekly deaths, which are released by the Office for National Statistics for England and Wales, and also by National Records Scotland and Nisra.
They showed that by 29 May, there had been 50,107 people who had coronavirus mentioned on their death certificates (in these cases, it is enough for a doctor to suspect that the virus was present).
The final number he gave was for "excess deaths", totalling 63,000.
That is the number of people who have died in the UK compared with the average number of deaths for this period over the last five years.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/u...-a4464526.html
10-06-2020, 09:39 PM
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Re: Coronavirus came to UK 'on at least 1,300 separate occasions'
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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All you say Baz is after the fact?The virus was allowed to travel from china! If this had not happened then none of what you mention would have happened either.
I have posted on this a couple of times in the past!
Donkeyman! 😁😁
11-06-2020, 07:59 AM
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Re: Coronavirus came to UK 'on at least 1,300 separate occasions'
A news item (05 May) I was reading recently was about how the Pacific islands, together with others, are trying to be part of a 'bubble' to get flights and their tourist industry going again. These Pacific islands together with Australia and New Zealand, all low coronavirus fatality countries, did what we should have done and immediately stopped all incoming flights etc. and locked the country down to stop the spread of the virus."Australia and New Zealand are planning a "travel bubble", or corridor, that will allow the quarantine-free flow of people between the two neighbours.
Both countries have severely restricted international travel to prevent the spread of coronavirus.
However, if successful, the "bubble" could grow to include more countries that have a low number of cases."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52526272
12-06-2020, 09:34 PM
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Re: Coronavirus came to UK 'on at least 1,300 separate occasions'
Originally Posted by Baz46
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Yes I realise that Donkeyman but even at a late stage there was the suggestion that incoming flights from France were to be allowed. Had all flights been stopped, even at a late stage some of the fatalities may not have happened. We had no control over the virus travelling from China but what we did, or should have had, control over was anyone coming here be that by air, sea or anything else. None of these measures were taken early enough, so allowing anyone carrying the virus to enter this country and possibly spread the virus.
and lam sure they were bad decisions at that time!
But l maintain that once the cat was out of the bag in China
then what has happened since was unstoppable as the virus as you say had allready reached the rest of the world via the repatriated
citizens from china, (one days flight from away!)
From then we were playing catch up! and not just us but most of
world many of whom are just getting into the danger area?
I predict that we will probably get a second dose next year due to
the resumption of aviation and passenger travel and our apparent
inability to resist going on holidays abroad? Moves are afoot allready
to get people flying again!! Imo this is unstoppable for economic
reasons only?
Pessimist aint l!
Donkeyman! 😟😟😟
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