24-05-2020, 01:40 PM
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Re: Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
Originally Posted by galty
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Am no expert BUTNo child under 16 has died of this.
They can be carries so could kill their grandparents.
Bit of an old link.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...20-2?r=US&IR=T
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...-dies-18276929.
24-05-2020, 01:49 PM
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Re: Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
It has been obvious since the start of The Pestilence that the Lefty - Liberal - Remainers and MSM have been picking fault and trying to trip up the Government, and hopefully bring about a high level sacking, or a resignation, or at least an embarrassmentWell now they've found something and are looking to get their Remainers Revenge
I watched the TV news this morning and predictably the BBC were in full witch hunt mode, trotting out various outraged Lefties and disgruntled Conservatives
It's a pity they weren't as rigorous about prosecuting Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, and others
Or criticising Opposition MPs who colluded with the EU to subvert Brexit
Or criticising Jeremy Corbyn's support for terrorists
Later there was an interview with Tony Hall, the Director General of the BBC
He is retiring soon, and said words to the effect that he was proud to have been in charge of such a wonderful, unbiased TV and news channel
That's when I switched it off in disgust
Apparently Tony Hall has said thet he's concerned that Boris will give the BBC 'a whacking'
Well I hope he does, it can't come soon enough
24-05-2020, 02:07 PM
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It yesterday briefing the government scientist Dr Jenny Harris reaffirmed ''the official guidance is that if you develop Covid-19 symptoms you must remove yourself from the public domain, but that there is “always an element of safeguarding” ...in other words the safety of others (and yourself to some extent) is also a consideration.I will give an example, if you were classed as extremely vulnerable eg over 70 with comorbidities you are supposed to stay at home whenever possible and have food delivered, however, if you are unable to do this you are not expected to sit at home and die in order to comply with the 'rules', we are expected to use an element of common sense.
If I had a small child and my partner became ill with the virus and I thought there was a good chance I would fall ill too my prime concern would be 'safeguarding' my child and my partner in any way I could and if that involved taking them to a place where help could be obtained from a younger family member I would do just that and I wouldn't give a dam what anyone else said or thought. I would still be 'removing myself from the public domain' while at the same time making sure my child was safe.
24-05-2020, 02:35 PM
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Re: Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
Originally Posted by Meg
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It yesterday briefing the government scientist Dr Jenny Harris reaffirmed ''the official guidance is that if you develop Covid-19 symptoms you must remove yourself from the public domain, but that there is “always an element of safeguarding” ...in other words the safety of others (and yourself to some extent) is also a consideration.I will give an example, if you were classed as extremely vulnerable eg over 70 with comorbidities you are supposed to stay at home whenever possible and have food delivered, however, if you are unable to do this you are not expected to sit at home and die in order to comply with the 'rules', we are expected to use an element of common sense.
If I had a small child and my partner became ill with the virus and I thought there was a good chance I would fall ill too my prime concern would be 'safeguarding' my child and my partner in any way I could and if that involved taking them to a place where help could be obtained from a younger family member I would do just that and I wouldn't give a dam what anyone else said or thought. I would still be 'removing myself from the public domain' while at the same time making sure my child was safe.
24-05-2020, 02:49 PM
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Re: Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
Originally Posted by Dodge
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If Cummings escapes any punishment then I would hope that a family comes forward who was caught and given a fine for doing exactly what Cummings did, thereby exposing any double standards.
I guess some people might have prefered it if Cummings had stayed at home in London rather than seeking help from a trusted younger family member and while doing so had died along with his wife leaving the child alone with 2 dead bodies.
It would have given the gossips somthing to chew on...
24-05-2020, 02:55 PM
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Re: Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
Originally Posted by zuludog
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It has been obvious since the start of The Pestilence that the Lefty - Liberal - Remainers and MSM have been picking fault and trying to trip up the Government, and hopefully bring about a high level sacking, or a resignation, or at least an embarrassment Well now they've found something and are looking to get their Remainers Revenge
I watched the TV news this morning and predictably the BBC were in full witch hunt mode, trotting out various outraged Lefties and disgruntled Conservatives
It's a pity they weren't as rigorous about prosecuting Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, and others
Or criticising Opposition MPs who colluded with the EU to subvert Brexit
Or criticising Jeremy Corbyn's support for terrorists
Later there was an interview with Tony Hall, the Director General of the BBC
He is retiring soon, and said words to the effect that he was proud to have been in charge of such a wonderful, unbiased TV and news channel
That's when I switched it off in disgust
Apparently Tony Hall has said that he's concerned that Boris will give the BBC 'a whacking'
Well I hope he does, it can't come soon enough
As for Cummings, the Marrsbar was trying to suggest that he was putting others at risk IF he had to stop for fuel. Hasn't that Scottish loon heard of "Pay At Pump"?
I'd had enough and switched off about ˝way through the Grant Shapps interview.
24-05-2020, 03:09 PM
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Re: Coronavirus: Dominic Cummings visited parents' home while he had symptoms
Defending Cummings is 100% wrong in my opinion.This was the official advice at the time of his trip
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...home-isolation
This was withdrawn and replaced with an updated version:
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...d-19-infection
and this is the official advice from the NHS:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/corona...irus-symptoms/
I have just been on BBC website and was scrolling through the live section and noticed this comment from political correspondent Ian Waston which I think is very relevant to this topic of discussion, and i quote:
The hope is that this will be seen as a "Westminster bubble" story and that the bubble will soon burst. Also, after a U-turn on the NHS surcharge for migrants this week, No 10 will not want to look as though it is on the run.
But this is an issue that has resonance way beyond Westminster.
Other parents will have been sick during the pandemic and stuck to what they thought were the guidelines to self isolate for up to 14 days.
So, the danger for the government isn’t just the prospect of political attacks from opponents.
It is the perception the rules that apply in your street don't apply to Downing Street. And if No 10 are interpreting the guidelines flexibly enough to allow people with Covid symptoms to travel substantial distances to isolate away from their principal residence, the wider public may follow suit.
That may, in turn, make the government's task of pushing the reproduction rate of the virus down all the more difficult.
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