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07-08-2020, 10:43 AM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by Meg ->
Just listening to an item on the radio where during the night reporters have been shadowing a fishing boat with 17 people (including a pregnant woman ) crossing the channel . It broke down and the border force had to rescue the migrants.

Apparently the French authorities are reluctant to intervene because when they do the migrants threaten to jump in the water.
But if we assist the froggies to follow the rules then what objections
can they possibly make Meg??
The claims the migrants would jump into the water need to be
tested? As they all appear to be wearing lifejackets the chance of
drowning would be very low anyway, certainly lower than the risks
involved in crossing the channell in an overloaded dinghy !!
We need to be more forceful in the way we deal with this problem
and as long as we comply with the current laws regulating illegal
migration such as seeking asylum in the first safe country they
enter then there can be no dispute !!

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07-08-2020, 11:06 AM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
But if we assist the froggies to follow the rules then what objections
can they possibly make Meg??
The claims the migrants would jump into the water need to be
tested? As they all appear to be wearing lifejackets the chance of
drowning would be very low anyway, certainly lower than the risks
involved in crossing the channell in an overloaded dinghy !!
We need to be more forceful in the way we deal with this problem
and as long as we comply with the current laws regulating illegal
migration such as seeking asylum in the first safe country they
enter then there can be no dispute !!

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Maritime law is specific that aid must be provided to preserve life at sea. If the French had rescued the burglars that had jumped into the water the French would then have to accept their application for asylum with all the costs that would incur.
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07-08-2020, 11:25 AM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Maritime law is specific that aid must be provided to preserve life at sea. If the French had rescued the burglars that had jumped into the water the French would then have to accept their application for asylum with all the costs that would incur.
The french have allready accepted those costs Todgy by
allowing these people to remain in France and take up residence
in any open space available ! And by not sending them back to
whence they came !!
I think you must be playing the DA in this matter?

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07-08-2020, 11:35 AM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
The french have allready accepted those costs Todgy by
allowing these people to remain in France and take up residence
in any open space available ! And by not sending them back to
whence they came !!
I think you must be playing the DA in this matter?

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The burglars are not legally in France and so the only costs to the French government are the crimes these POS commit. They build their jungles illegally and there's nothing to be gained for the Frogs to move them on although occasionally they do when the burglars crime rate gets too high or the interference with road traffic becomes excessive.

As far as the French are concerned "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
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07-08-2020, 07:45 PM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The burglars are not legally in France and so the only costs to the French government are the crimes these POS commit. They build their jungles illegally and there's nothing to be gained for the Frogs to move them on although occasionally they do when the burglars crime rate gets too high or the interference with road traffic becomes excessive.

As far as the French are concerned "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
You say the migrants are NOT in france legally Todgy !
Surely enough reason to send them back to the nearest border
to the country that speaks their language or dialect ??

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07-08-2020, 08:39 PM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
You say the migrants are NOT in france legally Todgy !
Surely enough reason to send them back to the nearest border
to the country that speaks their language or dialect ??

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Can't be done the moment they request asylum. Even if they subsequently have their application rejected without proof of their nationality and without the cooperation of their country of nationality we're stuck with them. Even so the burglars will play the human rights card which can introduce years of delay or more often "indefinite leave to remain" usually followed by --- guess what.
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08-08-2020, 12:50 PM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Maritime law is specific that aid must be provided to preserve life at sea. If the French had rescued the burglars that had jumped into the water the French would then have to accept their application for asylum with all the costs that would incur.
Maritime law only states that lives must be saved if possible !
Not what should be done with the so called rescued afterwards !
Our navy must insist they assist the froggies to carry out their
duty to save them and return them to their port of departure!

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08-08-2020, 01:51 PM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Maritime law only states that lives must be saved if possible !
Not what should be done with the so called rescued afterwards !
Our navy must insist they assist the froggies to carry out their
duty to save them and return them to their port of departure!

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The moment they request asylum the game starts and the game is the procedures for providing asylum to those seeking it. These are enshrined in international law.
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08-08-2020, 03:35 PM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Getting increasingly desperate.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ant-boats.html

A man was found with empty lemonade bottles strapped to his body in a highly-dangerous bid to swim to Britain as desperate migrants turn to increasingly risky methods to cross the Channel.

The man was found just four miles off the French coast as the number of people making the perilous crossing has increased in recent days.

In another shocking case, a group tried to get to the other side of the channel in a children's paddling pool while some have tried wooden boats or kayaks. Some used shovels as oars to row across.
A tragedy waiting to happen. Who will be responsible for that.
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08-08-2020, 03:37 PM
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Re: Illegal migrant or Genuine Asylum seeker?

Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
Getting increasingly desperate.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ant-boats.html



A tragedy waiting to happen. Who will be responsible for that.
Common sense says they themselves for being so bloody stupid but I've no doubt some bleeding heart liberal would have something different to say about it.
 
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