Cuts to pensions, the NHS, Benefits - what next?

By the end of this year the government will have borrowed around £200,000,000,000 pounds for this year alone taking the gross national debt to well in excess of £1,000,000,000,000 and projected to exceed 1,500,000,000,000 by 2016.



So just dealing with this year and addressing the £200 billion borrowing to provide the state support, hand outs, and deliver the essential services here's a question for those who have leanings towards “Socialism” or as I prefer to see it, the Loony Left.

Taking into account with a population of around 70,000,000, FAR too many of whom have no right to even be in Britain, in order to reduce that Central Government Borrowing Requirement (PSBR) to zero which is still a lot more than it needs to be – it actually should be around £50 billion BELOW zero, what should be done?

Remember, it means slashing around £2750 from what is spent by central government from every man, woman, and child in the UK.

Tax the rich? Won't work. In any case the additional revenue would be relatively trivial and VERY short term as the people who would be affected would use all and every means to avoid the tax even if it meant moving away. What's more the stupid claim that the “rich” don't pay their way is fallacious. The tax this class of people pay per capita is way more than the average income tax payer.

So where should the axe fall?

In my opinion the very first cut should be on foreign aid. To borrow money in order to give it away would, inn the case of an individual, see the men in the white coats arriving post-haste.


So how about it? The deficit MUST be cut, and by more than just the £2750 per capita but more like by at least £3500 in order to just start to work down the huge debt mountain most of which is 100% down to the previous disaster years of the Blair/Brown fiasco.

So cut what, where, and how?

Dole? Other Social Security payments? NHS? The NHS budget itself is in excess of £100 billion. Or maybe some other measures such as were introduced as a result of IMF conditions last time Labour screwed the British economy.

I would be interested to see what people have to offer and I'll come up with where I believe cuts should be made and / or changes implemented.

Oh yes, let's not forget the ADDITIONAL £80 billion borrowed by local government, that doesn't appear on the Government PSBR. Maybe we could start there by --- you tell me first!

But one thing is certain, something will have to be done – and soon.

Re: Cuts to pensions, the NHS, Benefits - what next?

How about asking each and every one of us to give the maximum they can afford to the treasury with the promise that, when and if things get better they will give it back. I'll start by donating £50,000.

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The trouble is that this approach views economies as static systems. It's not just about reducing the deficit, it's also about stimulating growth in our economy. The reality is that the only real way of improving our economic system (for everyone, not just the rich who are doing very nicely thank you despite double dip recessions and all) is a combination of stopping wastage and unnecessary spending while implementing projects which encourage growth in the economy and not shrinkage. For example, if all the money which currently goes from government coffers into the pockets of warlords and potentates (ie foreign aid) was spent on housing projects in the UK (restricted to UK-only building companies), it would stimulate the economy by providing jobs (which should be ringfenced to existing residents not taken up by new immigrants) which in turn would provide income to be spent within the UK, boosting our domestic economy.
In the Health Service we should return to the days before we created the "purchaser/provider" split which did nothing but make the NHS more inefficient, created thousands of unnecessary admin jobs and, incidentally screwed up the lives of thousands of patients.
Gotta go now, but I have lots of other suggestions.

Mick

Re: Cuts to pensions, the NHS, Benefits - what next?

In the short-term it will create some redundancies and unemployment, but in the longer run will save us £Billions if we scrap our so-called independent Nuclear deterrent at Faslane and moth-ball the submarine fleet.

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They were talking about this on the radio the other day and it is thought the government are unwilling to do so because of the affect on jobs/the local economy.
Apparently it would be cheaper to pay off all the workers than to go ahead with the next generation of nuclear weapons.

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Just sittin', thinkin' -----

To begin with what has taken decades of misrule and maladministration to create can not be corrected overnight. For one thing the sub-plebs and those who entered Britain to scrounge out of a trough they have taken no part in filling would never accept it without a fight with the blood spoken of by the late great Enoch Powell actually flowing rather than the constant drip that is presently taking place.

But there are some steps that could, and in my opinion SHOULD be undertaken. The ending of all foreign aid I've mentioned. That alone would reduce Britain's Budget deficit by billions at a stroke.

Next, and this would be a win-win move, would be to pull all British troops out of Afghanistan and in fact ALL overseas postings. NATO? A thing past its sell-by date and a thing that is in reality of no use whatsoever to Britain. Get out.

Atomic Weapons? Abandon them one and all. They are singularly useless and hugely expensive. If hostilities did occur then just as in the last war Britain was thoroughly beaten and it was the factories and armed forces of the United States that defeated Germany in the armed phase of achieving the establishment of the Third Reich in Europe, so in any future conflicts given the nature of the weapons available to any threatening power Britain would be unable to do anything on it's own.

To remain in NATO, in fact to adopt any policy other than that by countries such as Switzerland would be stupid as the probability is Britain would simply be an unsinkable aircraft carrier for the US.

In fact change the role and scope of the British Armed Services to a purely domestic role. No vastly expensive hardware, no huge numbers, instead a glorified border patrol service with a few units to deal with domestic uprisings when they take place.

But that's just a few things that could be done, should be done, and would go a long way to cutting the Public Sector Borrowing Requirement (PSBR) with a zero effect on domestic Public spending.

Further thoughts anyone?

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Some thoughts are toxic.

Re: Cuts to pensions, the NHS, Benefits - what next?

When sacred cows set about eating the seed corn the best thing to do is cull sacred cows.

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Maybe a Nuclear capability will at sometime be needed to repel an alien invasion, who knows???.

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No! Uncle Joe our defences have been weakened enough already.

Stop all foreign aid - at least for the time being.
Stop any further immigration - at least for now.
Stop paying extortionate expenses to politicians who are already overpaid for what they do.